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06-21-2013, 10:26 AM
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I can't say this is true for all wheels,but any that I have checked have had the max inflation pressure stamped on the inside of the wheel. The only time you could see this was when the tire was off.
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06-21-2013, 10:29 AM
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I can't say this is true for all wheels, but any that I have checked has had the max inflation pressure stamped on the inside of the wheel. The only time
you could see this was when the tire was off.
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06-21-2013, 02:32 PM
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Good information and thanks. The top photo of the five spoke wheel is our wheel so it looks like our tires have a higher weight capacity than our wheels. Since we are running just under 3,000 lbs per wheel/tire I guess I'll stick with this wheel/tire combo for now and run 100 PSI as the tire dealer recommended.
This Goodyear dealer in Bakersfield deals mainly with trucks and trailers. Their installer said they install a ton of these G rated LT tires on commercial 'low boy' trailers.
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06-21-2013, 05:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by atom ant
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill36re
Has anyone else noticed that the stock five spoke tires that come with the E range tires cannot handle 110 PSI? I can't see a PSI rating on our rims, just a max load of 3,750 LBS per tire. This issue is being discussed in other 5ver forums.
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If your wheels are cast with 3,750 lb capacity, that should make them alread rated for 110 psi, as that is the only tire that has that capacity. Maybe they had limitations on the valve stems they used, or they just assumed the wheel was only rated for 80psi based on what they took off.
You might check here here to see which wheel you have - Tredit Tire Wheel - and then you can call them to find out what they are rated at. I noticed Redwood commonly used the T03 wheel which was only rated for 3,580 lbs (limited to ST LRE tires):
When we ordered G614 tires as an option, ours came with the T09 wheel rated for 3,750 lbs. I see this wheel used sometimes on the Redwood even if the tires are ST LRE. I suspect this is the wheel you have and it should be rated for 110psi:
Oddly enough, they don't post the psi in the specs, at least from this manufacturer. (I think these wheels are Hi-Spec). I filed a complaint with the NHTSB on our last rig, and in discussion with the agent I was told the wheel composition is built to the same specification, so pressure is not a tested criteria. He said pressure is related directly to the tire the wheel is designed for, and the capacity is directly related to number of studs and diameter of studs, nothing more. Again, this was just the agent talking, but it started to make sense why the wheels aren't stamped with a pressure all the time.
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Oh Boy...I ordered the G614 tires but the dealership/Redwood did not upgrade to the T09 wheel. Soooooo, it looks as though my camper has more tire than wheel.
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06-21-2013, 05:54 PM
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The Tredit T03, 8 hole is rated at a load capacity of 3580 lbs. The G614 at 100 psi has a load rating of 3550. If you are under this load, you are still in the safe range. Just how safe depends on how much you are under.
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06-21-2013, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by spindrift
Oh Boy...I ordered the G614 tires but the dealership/Redwood did not upgrade to the T09 wheel. Soooooo, it looks as though my camper has more tire than wheel. Â*
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Ya - you may want to talk to them.
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06-21-2013, 07:38 PM
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I"d definitely be talking to them...When you ordered the G rated tires a G rated 110 PSI wheel was supposed to be part of the deal and include metal 110 psi valve stems....Looks like someone really suck you in the (axle )...I believe they owe you 4 new G rated wheels and 4 G rated tires...Check your order sheet and get after the dealer and RW
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06-22-2013, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RollsRoyce
I"d definitely be talking to them...When you ordered the G rated tires a G rated 110 PSI wheel was supposed to be part of the deal and include metal 110 psi valve stems....Looks like someone really suck you in the (axle )...I believe they owe you 4 new G rated wheels and 4 G rated tires...Check your order sheet and get after the dealer and RW
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06-22-2013, 03:54 PM
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trying to check the torque today and used a 7/8 inch socket on the wheel lugs. The socket spun on the lug. I noticed some of the lugs rattle but yet I can't loosen or tighten them. Are the chrome lugs actually lugs or decorative caps. I can't pull the loose ones free if they are caps?
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06-22-2013, 03:55 PM
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I meant to say that I tried a 7/8 inch 12 point socket which spun on the lug.
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06-22-2013, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NW Snowbirds
I meant to say that I tried a 7/8 inch 12 point socket which spun on the lug.
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Yes I think they're caps
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06-22-2013, 06:12 PM
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It is a 7/8" six point socket. And no they are the lug nuts.
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06-22-2013, 06:20 PM
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If it's 7/8", it's 7/8". Doesn't matter whether or not it's a 6-point or a 12-point. You've got something else going on there if your socket is spinning.
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06-22-2013, 07:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NW Snowbirds
trying to check the torque today and used a 7/8 inch socket on the wheel lugs. The socket spun on the lug. I noticed some of the lugs rattle but yet I can't loosen or tighten them. Are the chrome lugs actually lugs or decorative caps. I can't pull the loose ones free if they are caps?
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I was questioning also whether or not they were decorative caps on the lug. The caps don't spin on the lug on my trailer wheels, so,I finally applied a 6 point hex socket and used an impact tool to loosen and the lug spun right out.
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06-24-2013, 12:29 PM
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You neeed 6 point and I have seen some that had 13/16 lugs
Edited by: RollsRoyce
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06-24-2013, 12:58 PM
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Got a six point 7/8" socket which did the trick. Tightened all lug bolt to 110 ft-lbs torque. Three lugs still rattled. What the heck? Removed those lugs and studs were tight on the hubs. Replaced lugs and tightened to 110 ft-lbs. They still rattled slightly even when torqued. Guess that's one for the dealer to check.
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07-16-2013, 01:34 PM
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And here is the rest of the story. Called Tredit Wheel. They supply the wheels with the lug nuts to Redwood. Tech told me that the lug nuts have a stainless steel cap which is crimped onto the steel nut. Difficult to see this when I removed the nut. So apparently I have four loose caps. No worries.
OAS I enquired about changing the valve stems from rubber to steel and using heavier duty G rated tires at 110 psi rather than the 80 psi E rated tires furnished. Was told they get this question all the time and it is acceptable providing the actual loading is not increased beyond the original wheel rating (3520 lbs). Looks like I will go for the H rated tires when needing replacement.
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07-17-2013, 12:36 AM
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I got my Goodyear H 17.5s from the guy in Ohio I could not be happier with them
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07-17-2013, 10:57 AM
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X2, if you have to buy new wheels to upgrade the tires, you might as well go all the way to the 17.5s with the H tires. Size is the same as the OEM 16s. Ours came from Trailer Tires and Wheels in Ohio, all mounted and balanced with metal valve stems. Real easy folks to work with.
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Blew a tire, 70 mph. Just happen to see it blow, no damage, air temp 108 temperature. rear Jacks would not deploy, called roadside assit. Chged in 30 minutes. Stopped in Ft Stockton, Tx, Goodyear found 2nd tire tread seperated 30%. $500 and 40 minutes later on road again. They would not warrenty. Called redwood, they say take to dealer, hauling tires back. 3 out of 11 attempts jacks have failed in some way.
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