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05-27-2017, 03:58 PM
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Falcon Axels
I didn't get a manual for the axels or suspension with my 2017 31SL, and I've been confused by all this Falcon Integrated Technology stuff. Are these really just Lippert 7000# axels?
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05-27-2017, 04:46 PM
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That is exactly what they are.
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05-27-2017, 07:42 PM
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Falcon Integrated Technology just means a whole bunch of Lippert stuff bolted together. There is no manufacturer called Falcon FIT.
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05-27-2017, 10:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shrode
I didn't get a manual for the axels or suspension with my 2017 31SL, and I've been confused by all this Falcon Integrated Technology stuff. Are these really just Lippert 7000# axels?
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I believe they should be 8k axels. But Lippert nonetheless.
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2018 Redwood 3901WB Autumn Fire
3 A/C, Heat Pump, Dishwasher, Washer/Dryer, Disc Brakes, Onan 5.5kw
2017 Ram Longhorn 3500 Cummings/Aisin DRW LB CC and a cute little aftermarket fuel cap
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05-27-2017, 10:52 PM
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That's what I thought. So, I need to be on alert for the dreaded Lippert grease on brakes issue.
They're 7000# axles on the 31SL.
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05-27-2017, 11:44 PM
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If I were you I would pull the wheels and put in Timkin bearings and replace the seals. Jand pack the bearings and you will be good to go. Your axle size is fine. I have 7000lb on my RL at 17500 and they are fine. You are a little lighter than that
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05-28-2017, 01:11 AM
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For what it's worth, I bought my 2017 31SL in Kyle, Texas. The brakes seemed a little less than what I expected. I was headed to Lindale, Texas. By the time I got to Buffalo, the truck was doing most of the stopping. I made it home and pulled the drums off for a look see. Grease all over three brake shoe sets. I pulled the seals and the bearings. I wasn't happy with what I saw. Went into town to local bearing house and bought Timken bearings and Timken seals. As it was, I had a full set of Kodiak disc brakes that I had bought to put on my Carriage Cameo. So I put the new Timkens into the discs and installed them on the Redwood. Both Dexter and Lippert 7000lb axles use/offer a #42 spindle so parts were interchangeable. When installed, just to see, I pumped the spindle as hard as I could and got no leakage from the seal. Great brakes and no leaks.
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Donnie & Kathy, 2017 31SL, SRE 4000, Goodyear H 17.5's, Kodiak Disc, Brakerite Actuator, Joyrider Shocks, Timken Bearings and Seals, 2019 Ram 3500 Dually, Mega Cab, HO Cummins, Aisin Trans, 4.10 Ratio.
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05-28-2017, 12:58 PM
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DART540,
You need to check your outer bearing#'s.
The outer bearing for electric brakes is 14125A.
The outer bearing for the Kodiak Disc is 02475.
Make sure you have the right bearing. The 14125A will look like it fits perfectly and will run for a while but it will fail.
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05-28-2017, 01:12 PM
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DART540,
Just saw another picture of your Timken purchase. They are 14125A that you bought which is the wrong bearing.
It looks like you bought races/cups as well. If you installed new cups/races in the Kodiak hubs you might be fine. I think the O.D. of the 14276 & 02420 cup are the same. Not sure but you should check.
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2014 Ram 3500 DRW 6.7, Aisin, 4.10
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05-28-2017, 10:00 PM
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Thanks for the expert observation. I had originally bought the set of bearings pictured for the Lippert drums and was going to use a set of Dexter backing plate assemblies I also had. Then after getting into it, and deciding to do the disc, I bought the proper bearing set for the outers. Seals and inners the same, and the outers for the disc for 8000lb instead of 7000lb. Good eye!!!
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