Ford F250

[mhs4771]

I don't mean to be rude, but I highly suggest that you 250/2500 owner get to a scale and see what your real world weights are. These RWs are shipping a lot heavier than the brochure weights and once you load them up are pushing the max gross or a little over. Our RL is running at a 3900 Lb pin weight combined with the loaded TV weight puts us near the max gross of the TV (13000 Lbs) We're no where near our max towing capacity or combined gross, but are on the limit of our max registered gross.
Any of the Big 3 Diesels will pull any of these units without a problem, it's stopping in an emergency and the ability to carry the pin weight where the 250/2500s fall short.Edited by: mhs4771

[jlandon13399]

I plan on getting to the scales as soon as I leave the dealer on Thursday. Looking at CGVW, RAW, Hitch weight etc.

[Dan]

Originally Posted by mhs4771

I don't mean to be rude, but I highly suggest that you 250/2500 owner get to a scale and see what your real world weights are. These RWs are shipping a lot heavier than the brochure weights and once you load them up are pushing the max gross or a little over. Our RL is running at a 3900 Lb pin weight combined with the loaded TV weight puts us near the max gross of the TV (13000 Lbs) We're no where near our max towing capacity or combined gross, but are on the limit of our max registered gross.
Any of the Big 3 Diesels will pull any of these units without a problem, it's stopping in an emergency and the ability to carry the pin weight where the 250/2500s fall short.

Yup i couldn't say it any better! also I would rather have 6 wheels under me than 4 when your going down themountainsand have 16,000 lbs pushing you especially when your being pushed into a sharp corner

[jlandon13399]

Last Friday November 30th we towed our new RW34SK to our storage lot. I did have Air Lift air bags installed on my 2010 F250 diesel 4 X 4 crew cab truck. The truck stayed level with 35-40 lbs of pressure before we hitched up the RV. No problem with towing the rig and braking was also good as I do leave a lot of distance between me and the vehicle ahead. I will check the tire ratings to see if there is a weight problem. I also weighed the unit and I am at 22280 lbs total weight including the truck. Rear trailer axel was 10560 lbs and the drive axel was 6580 lbs. The rear axel weight rating on the truck is 6100 lbs so I will get with Ford to see if I have a problem here. Steering axel wieght is 5140 lbs. I had the unit loaded as if we would be traveling so the weights should be reasonable. I will take as many responses that come through to this post as we all can learn from them.

[RollsRoyce]

Jack....Look on your sidewall and it will tell you what each tire is rated at per tire....My F250 also has a 6100 lb rear weight limit...My tiers ar Pirelli Scorpion STR 118/121 ratred at 3197 each which gives you a almost 6400 lb weight...My wheels are chrome clad steel which has a better capacity than forged aluminum...I also have camper package and tow package...I have a bumper leaf and 4 springs in a bundle and 1 spring under the other 4...don't know what it is rated at but the axles are supposed to be higher rated than the tires

[Dave&Ginny]

If I'm not mistaken the rear axle on the F250 and F350 are the same, it's the springs that change as well as the torsion bar. If this is the case you have a 7000 lb axle under your truck. If you have "E" rated tires, the tires will carry a max of around 7500 lbs. With these numbers, you should be okay with the RW34SK. I would be worried about the brakes unless you bought the disk brakes.

[jlandon13399]

Thanks Dave. I appreciate the feedback.

[jlandon13399]

Rolls Royce,

I have Continental LT275/70R18 tires with a load rating of E. Side wall states 3640 lbs at 80 PSI. That leaves some comfort with a 6580 drive axel weight. I guess the aluminum wheels are rated for at least that amount to avoid safety issues at Ford. All told I am comfortable with the set-up and just have to weigh the trailer and tow vehicle at least every six months to insure we stay in specification.

[RollsRoyce]

I forgot ...my 08 F250 only has 17 inch wheels but they are steel.....Normally your rear GAWR is based upon the lowest rated item...Tires, wheels, springs and axle...I'd check with Ford to see why yors is rated at 6100 lbs...The only information I could get out of Ford is see those 08 F250's on the lot behind us look at those trailers loaded with all that heavy road machinery and attached to them are F250's ...You should never have trouble with a 16,000 lb trailer

[jlandon13399]

RollsRoyce,

The 2010's have 18" wheels. However my max towing capacity is 15300 lbs. MyRW34SK came in empty at 12908 lbs. By the time you add propane, water, and personal items I do not have much room before reaching the 15300 lb max.

[jlandon13399]

Dave,



I put Airlift air bags on my 2010 F250. I pull a RW34SK which has a high hitch weight. The brochure is incorrect showing 3300 lbs. The website literature shows the hitch weight at 2800 lbs. I verified that the 2800 lbs is the correct weight. With a lot of our interste roads in Arizona under construction the trailer towed perfect without chucking due to the air bags. If you have any doubts go with the air bags. Just and FYI.....

[TravelinAnderson]

Here's a link to Ford's towing capacities for a 2010 F-250.
The factory towing/load capacity chart would be the only reference I would use in determining my tow vehicle's ability to handle the load I plan to put on it.
Our opinions on whether or not your truck can safely handle the trailer you tow is just that...our opinion.
Here's another opinion. Running at or near 100% or your tow vehicle's capacity should be avoided if possible. You could argue the the manufacturers factor in a 15% - 20% cushion when they determine towing/load capacities but I don't know whether they do or not. That being said, I assume the numbers they provide to be the maximum capacity... not 85% of it.... just my 2c

Here's your link:
http://www.ford.com/assets/pdf/towin...RDUTYsep09.pdf
Edited by: TravelinAnderson

[RollsRoyce]

To all F250/350/450 Ford owners

Some very useful information on all year models. Follow instructions below from a Ford tech.



Royce my name is Terry Buckendorf I
am the shop foreman here at southwest ford. The information you are looking for
can be found at www.fleet.ford.com</span> <?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /></span>

Highlight showroom tab and scroll
all the way to the bottom of drop down to truck body builder upfitter. </span>Click on that, another page will load.
Highlight publication tab. select vehicle specifications tab. Select 2008 body builders’
guide, then your truck type at the top. This will give you all the information you’re
looking for and more. It has a lot of good information in it. If this doesn’t
get you all you’re looking for call or e-mail me.</span></span>

Thanks Terry
</span>817-597-4221 is my direct line</span></span>

[Dave&Ginny]

The 2013 F350 4x4 crew cab has an increased GVWR from 13300 (2012) to 14000 (2013) raising the maximum trailer rating to 22,200 lbs.

[RollsRoyce]

The information on that websight will even give you all kinds of weight and dimensional information from front to rear on several year models and different cab chasis...axle ratings, wheel ratings, spring ratings and more...Tons of good information
Edited by: RollsRoyce

[jlandon13399]

I found the information on Ford's website very useful. I left a message for Terry Buckendorf to call back. I have a 2010 F250 diesel crew cab 156" wheelbase, auto transmission. I added Airlift air bags. My rear GAWR is 6100 lbs. When I weighed the truck and trailer attached (RW34SK) the drive axel weight was 6580 lbs. The RW34SK is heavier than my last fifth wheel. Everything pulls great and I have not had any problems towing. Question is am I in trouble with a GAWR of 6100 lbs and an actual weight of 6580 lbs? Tires, wheels, axel are all rated higher than the 6100 lbs. It seems that the suspension is the limiting factor and since I added air bags I hope all is well. If anyone out there can shed some light I would appreciated it.

[Dave&Ginny]

It's my understanding that the frame of the F250 is the same as the F350 so your frame should be ok. Since you've added the air bags the springs are also being supported. In my opinion the real problem is going to be the wheels, tires, torsion bars and brakes. If you're dead set on keeping this truck, I would focus on upgrading these components of the truck. All of these up grades can be easily done without much money. Don't underestimate what the heavier torsion bars will do for the ride quality and safety when handling the extra weight.

Keep in mind that anytime you're pulling or carrying more weight than what the manufacture recommends, you're taking a chance.

[jlandon13399]

Thanks Dave. Looks like I will be talking to the dealer!!

[Dave&Ginny]

Originally Posted by jlandon13399

Thanks Dave. Looks like I will be talking to the dealer!!

In my opinion, you're going to be better off. If you read some of my other posts you'll read that I had a 2011 F350 4x4 SRW that I loved. But I ended up getting a 2012 F350 4x4 dually that pulls the trailer so much better. If you aren't apposed to traveling, I bought my truck in Nebraska at "Wood House Ford" and it was well worth the trip. I saved over $2000 and they treated me like a king. They're the largest Ford dealer in the country. When I was there they had 181 F350's in stock.

Good luck.....Merry Christmas.

[mhs4771]

It's really a shame that Dealers aren't more upfront with regard to the real world weights of these rigs, rather than "Oh, sure you can pull it with that Truck". When we first starting thinking of a 5er I went looking for a 2500 Duramax/Allison Long box with a towing package and couldn't find anything, but the local Dealer offered me a better deal on a 3500 dually than I could get ordering a 2500. Sure am glad I took that deal even tho we didn't get a 5er then, but a larger TT, then when we were ready for a 5er we didn't have to worry about the TV.