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05-13-2016, 03:28 PM
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House Battery replacement
I am needing to replace my Group 29 batteries in my 6 mo. old 38GK which we have only used 2 months. The battery to the rear of the compartment was dry! I had to disconnect all leads and vent tubing to even get to the cell caps.
I am confused with connections as I was under the assumptions one of the two was dedicated to the residential fridge/inverter. Mine were connected together in parallel. This sort of makes sense to share the amp-hours. I'm considering to replace these two with 4 batteries as some of you have done. I can get a Interstate Group 27 from Costco for half the price of a Group 29 from Interstate directly. Costco does not carry the 29. Redwood informed me my original batteries were from World Wide Batteries. I asked them as these were not labeled. Whatever I decide to do, I am going to modify/change the cables and battery box so I can check the water levels without having to disconnect which was absurd to have to do. I looked into Wally batteries, but reviews were somewhat negative. Would appreciate advice of others and pictures of modified battery configuration.
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05-13-2016, 04:36 PM
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After being a interstate fan for over 30 years and after my last 2 only lasted about 18 months, went to our local distributor and he offered no explanation other than that they only have a 1 year warranty, so I was SOL!!! After reading good reviews for the exide AGM sealed battery I bought those and so far doing well. Exide gives you 2 year warranty.
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05-13-2016, 06:23 PM
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Ken,
I went with 4 6-volt Costco batteries. It will give you more than double the amp hours of 4 12 volt batteries and perform much better. When connecting the 6 volts in series, it doubles the voltage (to 12), the amp hours remain the same. When you attach the second set of 6 volt batteries in parallel, you double the amp hours. Depending on the batteries, that's 416 - 440 amp hours....
I don't have a photo of the wiring of the batteries, but have attached a photo of the box. The cables are routed such that the batteries can be serviced.
Ken
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05-13-2016, 09:28 PM
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I went with interstate AGM after the cheap batteries that came with it crapped out at 3 mths old. Working in the electrical field I have been adding water to batteries for 43 years. Bin there done that. I will just add more batteries if I need them.
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05-13-2016, 10:36 PM
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My inverter owners manual, it said it requires 200 Ah for proper operation.. But mine only came w/ one Group 27 - apx 80Ah, same thing that goes in a new pop-up camper - Dealers these days...... I have been looking around at maybe getting a pair of T-105's, but I do like the picture above w/ the 4 6v batteries and a Great battery box (Who was the supplier?) Best of luck and let us know which way you finally go. Thanks
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05-13-2016, 10:52 PM
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05-14-2016, 03:58 AM
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Ken, Great and clean installation! It does appear you do not have a gen-set which I do. I would question if I have room for this box. Will check.
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05-14-2016, 06:46 AM
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you might want to look this one up.
6V 420 amps for 20 hours--
size 17"H - 7 1/2 W - 11 3/4 L
weight 113 LBS
Trojan manuf
Retail aprox $300
put 2 in series and you will have
12v and 840 Amps for 20 hours.
if you really want a bunch of power
4 units series / paralel will give you
1680 amps for 20 hours.
that is what we had in the MH years ago.
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05-14-2016, 03:43 PM
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Ken,
The battery box was installed to the right of the gen set box. Shouldn't interfere.
Ken
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05-14-2016, 09:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 830hvacman
My inverter owners manual, it said it requires 200 Ah for proper operation.. But mine only came w/ one Group 27 - apx 80Ah, same thing that goes in a new pop-up camper - Dealers these days...... I have been looking around at maybe getting a pair of T-105's, but I do like the picture above w/ the 4 6v batteries and a Great battery box (Who was the supplier?) Best of luck and let us know which way you finally go. Thanks
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Do you have a magnum inverter? I looked at my manual and could not find any requirements
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05-14-2016, 11:18 PM
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My Magnum has three settings, 200 Amp Hr (60 min Absorb time), 400 Amp Hr (90 Absorb), 800 Amp Hr (120 Absorb), selectable from the Remote.
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05-15-2016, 07:04 AM
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I looked the book again - and on page 15 - talks about installation.. My model is the MMS1012. And it looks like I was wrong, Not sure what I was reading into it.. Anyway, my future upgrade from the 85Ah to 220Ah should be a huge improvement to run time!
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05-16-2016, 11:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mhs4771
My Magnum has three settings, 200 Amp Hr (60 min Absorb time), 400 Amp Hr (90 Absorb), 800 Amp Hr (120 Absorb), selectable from the Remote.
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The default setting for the magnum is 400 Amp Hr. Mine was set to the default setting and since I had the original batteries, the wrong setting may have had something to do with their short life span.
I have replaced them with 3- 100AHr AGM batteries and threw away the battery enclosures.
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