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09-23-2017, 02:20 AM
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I can't figure my Axel's or tires out
So here I am in Louisiana after my last trip 780 miles I notices one of my tires deflating so I stopped to add more air, as I check all the way around I noticed that one of my tires was coming separated at the wall and thread. So I look at my spare and it was a Goodyear marathon so I said no, I'm not adding this to our RW cause for the ones that know me this was the cause of the problem to begin with. So I called the Good Sam road side assistance and the got me a new 10ply tire for $410.
Here comes my question! So with my tires on, I used a straight edge and measured to the frame I was about 1/2 " off so I figured ok that's my problem spindle bend. But when the took the tire off I used same straight edge directly to the hub and I was under 1/8" witch is normal.
What would be the best or better suspension upgrade for me ? Anyone here having problems with 7k axel ? I don't think the 8k upgrade would make a difference. This tire wear also this is only happening on my front axel I posted a picture of my shackles few days back and the seem to never ride flat the front is always sitting pushed back.
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09-23-2017, 02:32 AM
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Most likely when you put the straight edge on the tires one was bit stressed so you won't get a good measurement. Did the tire separate or was it wearing wrong??
Titan Guy just installed the 8K axels so we are all waiting for his feedback.
If your going to travel a lot Moryde IS is probably the only way to go. We were planning on upgrading but plans have changed a little and will be staying longer in SC so not as many miles each year so will put off spending the $ for now.
Steve
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09-23-2017, 02:57 AM
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Well with the tire expansion you are 100 percent right. On wearing I have to say the inside of the tire was uneven at least 1/4 of the tire lifespan. (This is on passenger side ) on drivers side same axel the middle of the tire is starting to show some wear. I drove 4400 miles on the tires with no problems this started on my last trip. I did have my RW shipped at some point and the driver said it was tracking not 100 % sure what he meant.
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09-23-2017, 04:15 AM
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Have you checked your u bolts if the trailer is dog tracking usually loose u bolts or the center pin that holds the spring pack centered on the axle has broken and shifted. Is your trailer riding level. If not you can see different tire whear between the tires on each axle
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09-23-2017, 04:31 AM
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Shane will you give me a quick tutorial on how to properly inspect this center pins?
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09-23-2017, 05:20 AM
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Both my axles were severely out of alignment wore the right front considerably in 5-6k miles, had aligned under warranty & they replaced the worn tire. Might want to have that checked also.
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09-23-2017, 01:50 PM
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Took it to tire place, and the said you couldn't align this type of axel because of that center pin that sits between the U bolts
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09-23-2017, 05:28 PM
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You need to visit a large truck alignment shop. I had my Redwood and Montanas done a few times.
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09-23-2017, 05:39 PM
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Yup that's where I went 18 wheeler alignment shop
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09-23-2017, 06:00 PM
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Interesting. I wonder why they said the pin was an issue, as that is pretty normal.
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09-23-2017, 07:30 PM
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The said the pin locks the axel in place so you cant adjust any movement on it. Maybe the where wrong?
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09-23-2017, 09:13 PM
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True, they would not be able to slide the axle one way or another on the spring, but if your axles aren't square to the frame thats a spring mounting issue, not alignment. All they can do is adjust camber and toe in, and they do it by attaching rams to the axles and bending them.
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09-24-2017, 01:17 AM
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Yes the guy at the place did mention the bending of the axel but, he got under there and said that on the legend plates said do not bend or something similar.
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09-24-2017, 02:20 AM
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I had a spring stack pin completely shear off and the axle slid back. Redwood shipped a replacement axle and the camber was 3/4" out. Redwood shipped a second axle and the camber was out even further. My dealer had a heavy truck shop bend it to get it correct and billed Redwood. Don't know the outcome of that. Tracking on both axles was correct, but camber was out.
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09-24-2017, 04:56 PM
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So I guess if it is a tracking issues, the spring hangers are probably mounted wrong. Do they measure exactly the same on both sides?
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09-24-2017, 05:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Char & Steve
If your going to travel a lot Moryde IS is probably the only way to go. We were planning on upgrading but plans have changed a little and will be staying longer in SC so not as many miles each year so will put off spending the $ for now.
Steve
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Last year I put in the IS, thinking I would be traveling a lot. Things changed this year and the Redwood is sitting on a seasonal lot up in Wisconsin. All summer I would look at my H rated tires and IS suspension, thinking "Smart Move Scott" On the other hand, I did put a couple thousand miles on it in spring and they were stress free miles not having to think of the under carriage.
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09-24-2017, 08:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bergeman
Last year I put in the IS, thinking I would be traveling a lot. Things changed this year and the Redwood is sitting on a seasonal lot up in Wisconsin. All summer I would look at my H rated tires and IS suspension, thinking "Smart Move Scott" On the other hand, I did put a couple thousand miles on it in spring and they were stress free miles not having to think of the under carriage.
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We put the IS system on in 2015, I have no regrets, we traveled all over the Western US and after sitting in Florida for almost a year, recently left briefly because of hurricane Irma.
Greased the IS system, which is only 4 zerks, used a bottle jack, what a pleasure, and stopped in Boloxi @ Southern Tire, and added about 8 lbs of Nitrogen to my tires, not bad for two years use. RW rides great and tracks true.
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