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01-11-2016, 04:02 PM
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Mor ryde upgrade
Have a 2015 39 MB with upgrade axles\ disc brakes and want to install Mor Ryde suspension and also replace plastic bushings with metal ones.
Can anyone tell me what system is best for the unit, based on performance and durability.
Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and a Happy New year, we are two months full timing now, and having a great time. Heading to Va in February for tax season, then will be heading west, would like to get these installed then.
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01-11-2016, 04:28 PM
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Depends on how much you want to spend. For me the only way to go is the Full Mor/ryde Independent System, no more bushings, each wheel is truely independent, and largest suspension travel. Price would run approx $2700 to $3200.
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Michelle & Ann
2018 Chevy 3500HD Crew Cab High Country DRW, D/A, 2016 RW39MB, Dual ACs, Auto Level, Auto Sat Dish, Stack W/D, King Sleep #, 17.5" Sailuns w/Disc, MORryde IS & Pin, Comfort Ride Hitch, 5.5 Onan, Res Fridge & Induction Cook Top
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01-11-2016, 04:52 PM
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I just priced the Independant Suspension (IS) - it was $3,000 for 7K suspension, $3,500 for 8K suspension using my existing Kodiak disk brake system. They can add disk brakes if you don't have them, but I don't know price. With the IS, you no longer have spring bushings to worry about.
If you have the 7K suspension, you can go with the SRE 4000 shear spring in lieu of the Trailair you have now, and that can be bought over the counter for $500 and then you would replace your bushing with bronze. The SRE is not compatible with the 8K suspension. Below is the SRE 4000.
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Brad & Dory - Lone Tree, CO
CURRENT - 2013 Itasca Meridian 42E/2013 Wrangler 4dr Sahara
SOLD - 2014 Redwood 36RL/2014 F350 DRW
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01-11-2016, 05:08 PM
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I have the upgrade 8K axles with disc brakes, as apparently you also have, can you tell me what you did to your suspension, as I am concerned with the plastic bushings everyone seems to be saying wears out quickly?
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01-11-2016, 05:22 PM
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Here is what Redwood is offering you from Christian's post a while back that contained a letter from the President (Andy Cripe): (I don't have it with me here)
A) You can take it in to the Dealer and have it inspected - if the bushings are shot, Redwood will cover the cost of bushings and labor to install bronze bushings. If they are not bad, you would have to pay for the labor for the inspection and it gets put back together as is.
B) If you decide to just proactively replace the bushings with bronze, you can order the parts from LCI at a reduced cost, which that information was also published. You would take care of your own labor or do it yourself.
Unless someone posts it first or finds the thread, I'll put it up here when I get back to my home computer.
I haven't done anthying to mine yet and I know one side is shot. It's in hibernation and I don't feel like getting it out. I'm investigating the IS or an improved suspension, but no decision yet. I also have some shorter shackles that Redwood sent me that is supposed to cure my issue with the 8K spring hitting the shackle, but I haven't done that either. I've got a few months to think about it.
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01-11-2016, 06:37 PM
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There's also the Center Point air suspension some have used, but I highly recommend the Mor Ryde heavy duty shackle & wet bolt kit if you don't go with the IS.
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Danny & Linda
Full-timed 10+ years
Former '13 FB owner
Traded '13 GMC Denali DRW D/A
Currently rv & truckless
Replacement undetermined
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01-11-2016, 07:09 PM
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I had the IS on my last fiver , and now have the SRE 4000 on this Redwood...
Is there a difference ? YES there is , is the difference worth the $2500.00 or so cost from the SRE400 to the IS .. ??? I don't think so , but that is only my opinion..
The SRE 4000 gives you 4" of suspension travel and the IS gives you 5-1/2"... So you have to decide if you NEED or WANT the extra 1-1/2" for the extra $2500.00..
I just added the HD shackle/wetbolt kit and the SRE 4000.. purchased both at - Makarios RV Parts and RV Accessories - Search Results for "sre4000"
Either way . you cant go wrong with either of the MorRyde products, and the folks at their shop are second to none to work with !
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2020 F-350
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17.5 Goodyear 114's , Titan Disc brakes, MorRyde 8K IS, Onan 6.5..
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01-11-2016, 07:48 PM
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In the FWIW department, I highly recommend Makarios. Great prices and great customer service.
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2013 36FL
Cindy and Tom, Toby and Kasey (our Berner and Newfie)
Oh...I forgot the five kids.
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01-11-2016, 08:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford truck guy
I had the IS on my last fiver , and now have the SRE 4000 on this Redwood...
Is there a difference ? YES there is , is the difference worth the $2500.00 or so cost from the SRE400 to the IS .. ??? I don't think so , but that is only my opinion..
The SRE 4000 gives you 4" of suspension travel and the IS gives you 5-1/2"... So you have to decide if you NEED or WANT the extra 1-1/2" for the extra $2500.00..
I just added the HD shackle/wetbolt kit and the SRE 4000.. purchased both at - Makarios RV Parts and RV Accessories - Search Results for "sre4000"
Either way . you cant go wrong with either of the MorRyde products, and the folks at their shop are second to none to work with !
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Except......The SRE 4000 is not compatible with our 8K springs..
STEP 12 The SRE/4000 is designed for a 1 3/4" wide double eye (not slipper style) leaf spring and will NOT work with an 8k axle spring pack (i.e. 7 leafs in which the second leaf down from the top is the same length as the top leaf).
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01-11-2016, 08:18 PM
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Thanks Brad ,
I just saw hat they had the 8k upgrade......
YUP , get the IS , its a great addition ! :-)
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2020 F-350
2020 3991RD with-
17.5 Goodyear 114's , Titan Disc brakes, MorRyde 8K IS, Onan 6.5..
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01-11-2016, 08:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford truck guy
Thanks Brad ,
I just saw hat they had the 8k upgrade......
YUP , get the IS , its a great addition ! :-)
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hahha--that's what Mor-Ryde said when I called Yup, get the IS!
I'm not positive our leaf pack is what they are talking about with the 2nd leaf as long as the first, but mine do hit with the long shackles so I'm pretty sure ours are the problem. I told them I had the lippert springs and that's when he said they no workey.
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CURRENT - 2013 Itasca Meridian 42E/2013 Wrangler 4dr Sahara
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01-11-2016, 09:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by atom ant
hahha--that's what Mor-Ryde said when I called Yup, get the IS!
I'm not positive our leaf pack is what they are talking about with the 2nd leaf as long as the first, but mine do hit with the long shackles so I'm pretty sure ours are the problem. I told them I had the lippert springs and that's when he said they no workey.
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Now when I did my upgrade , the good folks at MorRyde told me that I needed to use the shorter ( 2-1/4" ) shackles , NOT the longer ( 3-1/8" ) . . . IF adding the sre4000 , the 2-1/4" is the one... what size is on yours now ??
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2020 F-350
2020 3991RD with-
17.5 Goodyear 114's , Titan Disc brakes, MorRyde 8K IS, Onan 6.5..
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01-11-2016, 10:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford truck guy
Now when I did my upgrade , the good folks at MorRyde told me that I needed to use the shorter ( 2-1/4" ) shackles , NOT the longer ( 3-1/8" ) . . . IF adding the sre4000 , the 2-1/4" is the one... what size is on yours now ??
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Mine came from the factory with 3-1/8", but Redwood engineering says the fix on the 8K was to go to the 2-1/4" and they sent me some. Whether they means the SRE 4000 with the shorter shackle would also work, I don't know. I just got stopped more or less with the 8K overall issue with the SRE 4000. Might be worth pursuing.
Did you put on the X-factor cross brace?
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CURRENT - 2013 Itasca Meridian 42E/2013 Wrangler 4dr Sahara
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01-11-2016, 10:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by atom ant
Mine came from the factory with 3-1/8", but Redwood engineering says the fix on the 8K was to go to the 2-1/4" and they sent me some. Whether they means the SRE 4000 with the shorter shackle would also work, I don't know. I just got stopped more or less with the 8K overall issue with the SRE 4000. Might be worth pursuing.
Did you put on the X-factor cross brace?
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Yes I did... it came with the 4000 kit... does it do much ??? But if MorRyde sells it , it cant be bad,, ??
Have you called the guys at MorRyde?? they are awesome to talk to , and know everything !!
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2020 F-350
2020 3991RD with-
17.5 Goodyear 114's , Titan Disc brakes, MorRyde 8K IS, Onan 6.5..
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01-12-2016, 12:17 AM
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On my 2012 36RE I added the IS and was happy with it. Not sure it was worth $3k and raised my trailer height by 4". I now have a 2015 38GK and I believe it is 13' 2" so, I am not considering the IS. I am plenty high enough. I thought the SRE4000 only raised the trailer 2"? I think I could live with that.
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2014 Ram 3500 DRW 6.7, Aisin, 4.10
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01-12-2016, 04:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford truck guy
I had the IS on my last fiver , and now have the SRE 4000 on this Redwood...
Is there a difference ? YES there is , is the difference worth the $2500.00 or so cost from the SRE400 to the IS .. ??? I don't think so , but that is only my opinion..
The SRE 4000 gives you 4" of suspension travel and the IS gives you 5-1/2"... So you have to decide if you NEED or WANT the extra 1-1/2" for the extra $2500.00..
I just added the HD shackle/wetbolt kit and the SRE 4000.. purchased both at - Makarios RV Parts and RV Accessories - Search Results for "sre4000"
Either way . you cant go wrong with either of the MorRyde products, and the folks at their shop are second to none to work with !
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Good info Ford truck guy. I was planning to go with the SRE4000 but have been second guessing myself wondering if I should just bite the bullet and go with the IS. After reading your review, I'll just stick with the SRE4000/Shackle upgrade.
I had the LRE4000 on my last fiver and hope the SRE4000 will work just as well.
Now I just need the dealer to hurry up and finish the warranty work so I can get the GK home and get started.
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2013 38GK - Titan Disk Brakes, SRE4000
2016 F350 DRW
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01-12-2016, 06:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan Guy
On my 2012 36RE I added the IS and was happy with it. Not sure it was worth $3k and raised my trailer height by 4". I now have a 2015 38GK and I believe it is 13' 2" so, I am not considering the IS. I am plenty high enough. I thought the SRE4000 only raised the trailer 2"? I think I could live with that.
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Wow, 4" is a bunch! Did that cause other issues?
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01-12-2016, 07:01 PM
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I've been looking at the SRE4000 as an upgrade when I decide to do the Titan Brakes. Hopefully soon. Can anyone attest to the 2"added height after adding the SRE4000? I really don't want to add 2" to the already high Redwood.
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Rick and Mindy
Retired
2013 Redwood 31SL, 2011 Ford F350 SRW, 6.7, Crew Cab with Firestone Bags, Titan Disc Brakes
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01-12-2016, 07:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan Guy
On my 2012 36RE I added the IS and was happy with it. Not sure it was worth $3k and raised my trailer height by 4". I now have a 2015 38GK and I believe it is 13' 2" so, I am not considering the IS. I am plenty high enough. I thought the SRE4000 only raised the trailer 2"? I think I could live with that.
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Ron........I have heard the 2 inch to 4 inch additional height but I did not see that on my coach when I added the SRE-4000 and Heavy Duty Shackles Kit. Prior to the installation, I had measured the height of the coach 2 to 3 times resulting in a height range from 13' 4" to 13' 6". After installation, I measured 13' 4 1/4". The coach was hitched to my truck and the Trail-Air air bag was set to the arrowhead tip. I was surprised but that was the result.
Guy
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01-12-2016, 07:26 PM
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Stuck with the stock Trailaire equiflex paired with the Moreryde shackle/ bronze bushing upgrade. Rides smooth in my opinion.
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Our 3 fur children "Ting-Tang"&"Saylor"(Shih Tsu's) &"Kai" (Finnish Spitz)
2007 Silverado Classic 3500 LT C.C. Longbed Dually,
Duramax, Allison Tranny, 62 Gal. Titan Tank
2016 39MB 5.5 Onan, Residential Package, Goodyear G114's, Mor/ryde heavy duty Shackle/bushing upgrade.
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