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Seems strange after reading your posts...My 35FB doesn't have 8k axles but does have G tires and wheels, yet it is rated at 16500 GVW
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05-09-2013, 02:07 PM
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Royce, what is your GAWR?
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05-09-2013, 02:28 PM
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Seems strange after reading your posts...My 35FB doesn't have 8k axles but does have G tires and wheels, yet it is rated at 16500 GVW
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The "G" rated whels and tires raised your GVW 500 extra pounds. The trailer with the standard tires are rated at 16000. Mine is rated at 16500 like yours and so far I haven't had any problems, however I am interested in the morRyde system
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05-09-2013, 05:33 PM
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I believe my rear is 6200 GAWR
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05-09-2013, 09:24 PM
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I believe my rear is 6200 GAWR
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No I meant on the trailer - where we were discussing the year of manufaturer at the campground. It's written on the left front tag, but is in us/french I believe so hard to find.
I'm just curious. Edited by: atom ant
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05-09-2013, 09:47 PM
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Brad, I take it you have the 8K axles that have been de-rated to the capacity of the G tires, correct?
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05-09-2013, 10:44 PM
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I dont have the 8000# axles yet but do have the G rated tires and Im only 16000# Did I get a wrong sticker?
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05-09-2013, 11:17 PM
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I believe my rear is 6200 GAWR
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No I meant on the trailer - where we were discussing the year of manufaturer at the campground. It's written on the left front tag, but is in us/french I believe so hard to find.
I'm just curious.
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Does not say 8K per axels.
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05-09-2013, 11:25 PM
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Brad, I take it you have the 8K axles that have been de-rated to the capacity of the G tires, correct?
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Yes, the Redwood engineer said it's based on the lowest limiting factor which are the tires.
To be honest the original sticker was wrong and I caught it on the PDI. The mechanic and I both crawled underneath to verify the axle tags, and we verified the factory build sheet, then called the rep with the salesman. The Engineer verified the error, the Rep said they would correct it, and it was fixed before we returned to pick it up 2 weeks later.
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05-10-2013, 12:54 AM
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I dont have the 8000# axles yet but do have the G rated tires and Im only 16000# Did I get a wrong sticker?
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I think you got the wrong sticker. My RL cam from the factory with 16500 with the "G" tires and rims.
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05-10-2013, 06:07 AM
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I dont have the 8000# axles yet but do have the G rated tires and Im only 16000# Did I get a wrong sticker?
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Were your G rated tires installed at the dealer, like mine? If so, it's highly likely you have a wrong sticker...just like me.
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05-10-2013, 07:14 AM
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I dont have the 8000# axles yet but do have the G rated tires and Im only 16000# Did I get a wrong sticker?
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Were your G rated tires installed at the dealer, like mine? Â*If so, it's highly likely you have a wrong sticker...just like me. |
Go by the scales and weigh it loaded like you usually travel and see if you actually have anything to worry about, you may be well under, I only travel with a 1/4 tank of fresh water and don't use it much before I get to the campground.
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05-10-2013, 11:01 AM
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Technically I should have got at least 17,000 lbs, if not 17,500 with the 8K axles when considering a 2,500 lb pin weight.I haven't decided if I'm going to push the issue or not - there are stickers all over the thing that would need to be changed, even on the screen door, that give the payload.
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05-10-2013, 03:57 PM
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Hmmmm We ordered them from the factory and only 16000# GVW.
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05-10-2013, 10:45 PM
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You know I should have put 2 and 2 together when I picked it up. I did ask the guys working on our coach when we went over the PDI if they had set the air pressure to 110lbs. He told me no that they could only legally set the air to the pressures posted on the side of our coach. I NEVER WENT OVER AND CHECKED THE STICKER! I seen the sticker on the door and remember looking at the air pressure and wondering why they only posted it at 80lbs. Just figuring that because I upgraded the tires that it would lead to a different sticker. But how is someone to know? My MISTAKE! Now what should I do. I guess I should be calling REDWOOD? Redwood says nothing in the brochures or on the option list about the heaver rated tires changing the GVW of the coach. Hey future buyers heres one more thing to check during your PDI inspection.
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05-10-2013, 11:11 PM
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I did talk with MORryde today and made a appointment to have axels installed. Should have them on at the rally. I asked him about the 8000# axles and he said that they would weight the coach when I got their to check the axel weights to see if I would actually need the heavier axels or not. I did ask him about if they changed the GVW sticker. They said no. I asked about what would happen IF stopped by the scales. He said that they usually look at the sticker on the axles and then look at the weight ratings on the tires and what your pin weight is and then look at the actual weights are on the axles to determine if they feel your safe . Sounded a little iffy to me but made since in a way. But I know the sticker is legal weight. Hope to upgrade to the 17.5 H rated tires next year.
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05-10-2013, 11:14 PM
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The G tires have a weight rating of 3750 lbs. at 110 psi. (7500 per axle) If you have 7000 lb. axles that is your weight limiting factor. If you have 8000 lb. axles than the tires are your limiting factor. I don't think a dealership has the authority to change the sticker. If push comes to shove I don't think the sticker means much anyway as long as the equipment on your trailer is sufficient to handle your load and you can prove it. I carry a weight ticket from a certified scale when fully loaded to back up my statement that I am not overloaded.
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05-11-2013, 01:17 AM
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Yea to late to go back to the dealer about it. I will let Redwood know but don’t expect anything from it.
And that is pretty much what MORryde was saying. Is the D.O.T. looks at your axles, tires and pin weight and take that into consideration to determine if your loaded safely or not.
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05-11-2013, 09:44 AM
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Other than verifying your weights for your personal peace of mind, is this "D.O.T." prep an actual concern? It seems to me that non-commercial vehicles, like 5th wheels, are exempt when approaching an open weigh station. I've never stopped at one.
What scenarios would you have to produce stickers, upgrade receipts & public scale documents?
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05-11-2013, 11:12 AM
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Other than verifying your weights for your personal peace of mind, is this "D.O.T." prep an actual concern? It seems to me that non-commercial vehicles, like 5th wheels, are exempt when approaching an open weigh station. I've never stopped at one.
What scenarios would you have to produce stickers, upgrade receipts & public scale documents?
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We have two Pilots with public scales in Baton Rouge area, I assumed all were so lucky.
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