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10-12-2017, 02:50 AM
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MORryde IS Question
I know many of you have this system on your Redwoods. We are getting ours installed now in Oregon. Ours came with a the oil bath caps for the axle bearings, but told they came greased from the factory. I was told MORryde has decided to go with greased bearings rather than the oil bath type due to problems with leaking. What do you guys have? I'm told the leaking was most likely due to rigs sitting for long periods of time rather than rolling down the road a lot? I'm thinking I'd rather have the oil bath type since we will be moving rather than sitting for long periods of time, but will now wait for that conversion when I'm due to 'repack' the bearings?
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10-12-2017, 06:39 AM
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Do you actually have oil bath bearings or just the caps? I wasn't aware RWs ever came with oil bath bearings, even as an option.
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Danny & Linda
Full-timed 10+ years
Former '13 FB owner
Traded '13 GMC Denali DRW D/A
Currently rv & truckless
Replacement undetermined
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10-12-2017, 02:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by travelin' texans
Do you actually have oil bath bearings or just the caps? I wasn't aware RWs ever came with oil bath bearings, even as an option.
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Danny...........my coach came with the oil bath caps I think because I ordered the coach with the Kodiak disk brake option. I was told by the factory service center that I could go with either oil bath or grease bearing, but if oil bath, I would need to have installed oil bath seals (which are more expensive). The oil bath system is better as long as you don't set the trailer for extended periods of time (which apparently can allow the bearings to potentially rust). If the trailer moves frequently, the bearings are always lubricated. I finally chose to go with greased system.
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10-12-2017, 04:11 PM
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Well, we have elected to remove our 7,000lbs axles with drum brakes and go to the 8,000lbs MORryde IS system with Kodiak disc brakes. MORryde is shipping the systems out with greased bearings and oil bath caps. They never gave me the option. The owner of the shop doing the install explained MORryde has had too many issues with the oil bath bearings leaking, but was curious why they are leaving the oil bath caps on. Probably due to costs and/or it's how they receive them from Kodiak... but you'd think they would have to remove oil bath seals? It makes sense what you said Hooiser guy. I was wondering if anyone out there is using the Kodiak brakes with oil bath bearings on their Redwood?
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10-12-2017, 06:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RomanyLife
Well, we have elected to remove our 7,000lbs axles with drum brakes and go to the 8,000lbs MORryde IS system with Kodiak disc brakes. MORryde is shipping the systems out with greased bearings and oil bath caps. They never gave me the option. The owner of the shop doing the install explained MORryde has had too many issues with the oil bath bearings leaking, but was curious why they are leaving the oil bath caps on. Probably due to costs and/or it's how they receive them from Kodiak... but you'd think they would have to remove oil bath seals? It makes sense what you said Hooiser guy. I was wondering if anyone out there is using the Kodiak brakes with oil bath bearings on their Redwood?
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There is nothing better then driving down the road with IS, Disk Brakes and H rated tires and not having to worry your under carriage is going to fall apart, tires blowing up or not being able to stop.
Whether or not it was a good investment, the peace of mind it gave me was well worth it.
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Scott
2015 38GK, Titan Brakes, H 114 Tires, IS
2015 Denali Dually
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10-12-2017, 07:06 PM
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Exactly why we are making the change. What brand of wheels and tires are you running Scott? We have the stock wheels, which are pretty good with Goodyear G rated right now, but will upgrade to H as well soon.
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10-12-2017, 07:43 PM
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I actually posed this question to Gary Wheeler at this year Mor/ryde Plant tour.
His reasoning for staying with the Greased Bearing has to do with the heating and cooling of our hubs. Oil works fine on Over The Road Trucks and Trailers since they are in constant operation, where as ours sit for a few days to months.
If you do some search on Oil vs Grease you will get all sorts of pros and cons for each type. So I've opt'd to stay with grease as we've got just shy of 60K on our MB with no issues.
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2018 Chevy 3500HD Crew Cab High Country DRW, D/A, 2016 RW39MB, Dual ACs, Auto Level, Auto Sat Dish, Stack W/D, King Sleep #, 17.5" Sailuns w/Disc, MORryde IS & Pin, Comfort Ride Hitch, 5.5 Onan, Res Fridge & Induction Cook Top
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10-12-2017, 08:48 PM
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I totally agree
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10-13-2017, 12:18 AM
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When I upgraded to the Titan Discs from Ron, my system came with the oils bath caps.. I personally like them better than the old school, tin, bang in caps.. I just run Timken grease with my Timken grease bearings..
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17.5 Goodyear 114's , Titan Disc brakes, MorRyde 8K IS, Onan 6.5..
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10-13-2017, 02:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RomanyLife
Exactly why we are making the change. What brand of wheels and tires are you running Scott? We have the stock wheels, which are pretty good with Goodyear G rated right now, but will upgrade to H as well soon.
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Contact Ron/Titan Guy when you trade to Hs, I don't know what brand of wheels but they are almost identical to the originals & has 2 choices of tires, Goodyear & Sailun. I chose the Sailuns, they have great reviews & with almost 10k on them they have been great, the price ain't bad either.
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Danny & Linda
Full-timed 10+ years
Former '13 FB owner
Traded '13 GMC Denali DRW D/A
Currently rv & truckless
Replacement undetermined
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10-13-2017, 02:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RomanyLife
Exactly why we are making the change. What brand of wheels and tires are you running Scott? We have the stock wheels, which are pretty good with Goodyear G rated right now, but will upgrade to H as well soon.
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Contact Ron/Titan Guy when you trade to Hs, I don't know what brand of wheels but they are almost identical to the originals & has 2 choices of tires, Goodyear & Sailun. I chose the Sailuns, they have great reviews & with almost 10k on them they have been great, the price ain't bad either.
With Sailun tires/wheels you can upgrade for just less than replacing 3 of they GY G tires alone.
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Danny & Linda
Full-timed 10+ years
Former '13 FB owner
Traded '13 GMC Denali DRW D/A
Currently rv & truckless
Replacement undetermined
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10-13-2017, 04:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RomanyLife
Exactly why we are making the change. What brand of wheels and tires are you running Scott? We have the stock wheels, which are pretty good with Goodyear G rated right now, but will upgrade to H as well soon.
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My brakes and tires, Goodyear came from Ron. Ron sold me the tires with the Rims as the old rims would not work for H rated tires. The spare tire was left as original. I don't think I even need a spare, I believe Ron told me that I will never get a flat if I buy the tires from him. So far, he is correct.
The only question I have is why Redwood would not provide a set up like this. If this was installed initially, what would the actual added cost be, 1k to 2k extra.
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2015 38GK, Titan Brakes, H 114 Tires, IS
2015 Denali Dually
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10-13-2017, 04:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bergeman
The only question I have is why Redwood would not provide a set up like this. If this was installed initially, what would the actual added cost be, 1k to 2k extra.
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But then we'd never meet great guys like Ron. There's a reason for all things.
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10-15-2017, 08:43 PM
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I've had the MorRyde IS on this coach for 4 1/2 years along with the Kodiak Discs. More than 33k trouble free, no worry about suspension miles. Like Joe, I run the OilBath caps, but the bearings are greased. Gary also did not recommend the oil bath bearings for the same reason he told Michelle.
You will find that the combination of the IS and Disc is like towing a completely different coach. The whole rig stops just as good as, if not better, than the truck alone and the ride is much better.
Oh ~ and I just went to H Sailuns from Ron.
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10-16-2017, 10:19 PM
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Suites used oil bath & discs OEM a few years ago. They had so many leaking issues they discontinued using oil. No one is recommending oil bath in RV trailers. In fact, Kodiak is the only one still offering the oil seals.
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2014 Ram 3500 DRW 6.7, Aisin, 4.10
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10-16-2017, 10:55 PM
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That all makes more sense now. I will continue with a greased bearing maintenance schedule.
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10-17-2017, 04:08 PM
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Our MH has oil bath on the front and tag. They are pretty easy to inspect as the hub covers come completely off. The hubs are clear and they have a level line and a fill on top once you rotate it into position. It would be hard to do on a trailer the way the hub cover requires wheel removal.
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