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03-13-2018, 12:57 AM
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Jim & Mary 2013 36 RL with Titan Disc Brakes Residential Fridge Goodyear 17.5 H rated tires MORryde IS, MORryde pin box 2015 Ford F350 King Ranch DRW
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03-13-2018, 01:29 AM
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Thanks Jim & Mary! My followup question... Dexter or Kodiak? Dexter is more expensive and that usually means better, but what and why?
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03-13-2018, 01:57 AM
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During this summer's Rally Mor/ryde is offering the 8K IS for $3750 for anyone that is interested, or 8K IS and Kodiak Disc for $6250
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2018 Chevy 3500HD Crew Cab High Country DRW, D/A, 2016 RW39MB, Dual ACs, Auto Level, Auto Sat Dish, Stack W/D, King Sleep #, 17.5" Sailuns w/Disc, MORryde IS & Pin, Comfort Ride Hitch, 5.5 Onan, Res Fridge & Induction Cook Top
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03-13-2018, 01:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BasilFawlty
We are thinking of upgrading to 8k. Currently have factory 7k axels and g rated tires. The gold standard of suspension seems to be the IS. What about the morryde cre3000 with x-factor crossmembers?
The big question, what kind of cost are we talking to upgrade? How many zeros should I practice writing in my checkbook?
I should add we already have factory disc brakes.
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Around $3500-$4000 for 8k IS
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03-13-2018, 02:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford truck guy
Around $3500-$4000 for 8k IS
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I’ll take that over the $6,750 on the flyer any day!
Thanks again
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03-13-2018, 02:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mhs4771
During this summer's Rally Mor/ryde is offering the 8K IS for $3750 for anyone that is interested, or 8K IS and Kodiak Disc for $6250
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Does that include 8,000# axles if the current axles are 7,000# rated?
I am getting quotes on 8,000# axles for my 2013 36RL. If their upgrade includes new axles I might lean towards that direction. Thanks.
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Bob and Carol - Lees Summit, MO,
2016 Silverado 3500 HD, High Country DRW diesel, 3.73 gear ratio, long bed, 25K Reese Elite removable hitch with 2013 Redwood 36RL with 17.5" H-rated tires and MOR/ryde heavy duty shackle links and bushings; 6.5 KW gen
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03-13-2018, 03:49 AM
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Just make sure what you're looking at:
The price for the IS alone is around 3500, for both IS and disk brakes is 6750. If you already have brakes installed, you don't need to look at the combo price. We already had Ron install his Titan package, so I only had MorRyde install the 8K IS.
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Jim & Mary 2013 36 RL with Titan Disc Brakes Residential Fridge Goodyear 17.5 H rated tires MORryde IS, MORryde pin box 2015 Ford F350 King Ranch DRW
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03-13-2018, 04:46 AM
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I have Ron's Titan brakes. Just wondering if the IS upgrade includes replacing the existing 7000# axles with 8K axles as part of the $3500 IS package. Thanks.
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Bob and Carol - Lees Summit, MO,
2016 Silverado 3500 HD, High Country DRW diesel, 3.73 gear ratio, long bed, 25K Reese Elite removable hitch with 2013 Redwood 36RL with 17.5" H-rated tires and MOR/ryde heavy duty shackle links and bushings; 6.5 KW gen
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03-13-2018, 06:03 AM
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When you do the IS suspension, everything below the frame rails is cut off and the new fully ind pendent suspension is welded on. No springs, no axles, no buggy crap . Each wheel is fully independent with its own trailing arm, shock and rubber sheer spring. The 7 or 8k designation refers to the unit itself and its physical size. They also make a 9k but it's really big.
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03-13-2018, 09:06 AM
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We had Ron's Titan brakes already installed, MorRyde kept them when installing the 8K IS last summer. I think they had to replace the backing plates, but was a trivial thing. We came across the US from Indiana and couldn't believe the ride. We also had the folks at MorRyde replace the bearings with Timkens at our request. I hope with our Goodyear 17.5's, the disc brakes, Timken bearings, and the IS, we're good to go for quite awhile. As several on here have said, the earlier RW's are some of the best built units still and I would not dispute that.
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Jim & Mary 2013 36 RL with Titan Disc Brakes Residential Fridge Goodyear 17.5 H rated tires MORryde IS, MORryde pin box 2015 Ford F350 King Ranch DRW
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03-13-2018, 02:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BasilFawlty
I’ll take that over the $6,750 on the flyer any day!
Thanks again
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You looked at it wrong... their advertisement states for 8k IS - $3750.00 and only $3250.00 for the 7K
The $6750.00 is the combo price - 8K IS, NEV R Lube bearings and Disc brakes...
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03-13-2018, 02:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RCAircraft
Does that include 8,000# axles if the current axles are 7,000# rated?
I am getting quotes on 8,000# axles for my 2013 36RL. If their upgrade includes new axles I might lean towards that direction. Thanks.
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Let me introduce you to my IS system..... NO AXLES ( per say) just a very rigid, welded steel crossmember...
Here is an assembly ready to be installed on my RW when I was there..
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03-13-2018, 04:07 PM
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Thanks to all. The IS 8K suspension for $3750 or so will be on my radar for when we hit the road to visit much of the US following Carol's retirement. The system appears to be robust and should reduce my scare factor from a previous suspension failure. MOR/Ryde heavy duty shackle links and bolts were installed along with one spring replacement. That was unexpected for only 3,000 miles. A little more scare factor was reduced by adding the H-rated 17.5 inch wheels and tires following a Marathon tire blowout that occurred in the first 1,000 miles with tire pressures spot on and monitored. This stuff keeps me young!
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2016 Silverado 3500 HD, High Country DRW diesel, 3.73 gear ratio, long bed, 25K Reese Elite removable hitch with 2013 Redwood 36RL with 17.5" H-rated tires and MOR/ryde heavy duty shackle links and bushings; 6.5 KW gen
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03-13-2018, 04:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piper guy
, no buggy crap .
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Good description!
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CURRENT - 2013 Itasca Meridian 42E/2013 Wrangler 4dr Sahara
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03-13-2018, 06:23 PM
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Bob - after towing ours well in excess of 30,000 trouble free, drama free and comfortable miles I will state without reservations that the 8k IS and disc brakes was and is the single best investment we made in our coach. Would never consider another fifth wheel without both. Period.
And now that we tow the Focus it's just an added plus. Rig is rock steady, only way I know "Fred" is back there is look in camera or in a tighter turn can see in mirrors. George and Lisa can probably advise on the difference in towing a vehicle between regular buggy springs and the IS if there is any as I believe they did the IS last summer and they tow a Jeep.
We'll be stopping at MorRyde for maintenance and a check on the suspension on our way out west next month. Planning on replacing brake pads just cause we'll have the wheels off and it's probably time.
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Vaughan & Tracy 2013 RW 36RL, 2013 F350 DRW CC, 2016 Focus. MorRyde IS, MorRyde pinbox, disc brakes, Comfort Ride Hitch. "Life is to be embraced, Grab it with both arms ! "
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03-13-2018, 10:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piper guy
They also make a 9k but it's really big.
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Yep, the 9K IS Assembly is a beast !!!
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MoRyde 8K IS, Disc Brakes, MoRyde Pin Box
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03-14-2018, 05:44 PM
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Look at all the advances in just about everything we see and use daily, now look at standard electric drum brakes on RV's. For those of us who are old enough, that's the exact same setup used on trailers when cars and trucks had generators and 6 volt electrical systems. Controllers have changed but the basic drum and magnet are the same.
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2018 Chevy 3500HD Crew Cab High Country DRW, D/A, 2016 RW39MB, Dual ACs, Auto Level, Auto Sat Dish, Stack W/D, King Sleep #, 17.5" Sailuns w/Disc, MORryde IS & Pin, Comfort Ride Hitch, 5.5 Onan, Res Fridge & Induction Cook Top
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03-14-2018, 08:08 PM
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What did Dezi Arnez have on that New Moon? he had to manually pull a lever in his Merc to slow down.
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03-14-2018, 09:34 PM
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Probably the Manual Brake Controller, we had one mounted on a tractor to operate the brakes on a Log Trailer.
In the early days they were manual, then they developed those that tied into the Brake Lines and used the pressure to operate the brakes. Then you progressed into the ones that used different methods to sense the TV slowing down, now you have controllers tied into the TV's computer system so it knows exactly what the TV is doing.
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2018 Chevy 3500HD Crew Cab High Country DRW, D/A, 2016 RW39MB, Dual ACs, Auto Level, Auto Sat Dish, Stack W/D, King Sleep #, 17.5" Sailuns w/Disc, MORryde IS & Pin, Comfort Ride Hitch, 5.5 Onan, Res Fridge & Induction Cook Top
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03-14-2018, 09:35 PM
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Double Post
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