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10-20-2015, 07:44 PM
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Neverfail suspension bushing
Does anyone have experience with the nylon suspension bushing Lippert makes call the "Neverfail Bushing".
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Mike n Vicki King
2015 Redwood 36RL
2015 Ford F350 DRW FX4
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10-20-2015, 07:57 PM
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GEE I wonder why they came up with THAT?! Haha... I will check what they sent to my service department to replace my shredded Lippert JUNK bushings... Probably those, which means they will probably FAIL.
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Living the Dream in our 2015 38RL: 1600 watts solar, 800 ah lithium, slide in slide, residential refer, washer/dryer, Moryde 8K, H rated tires, Kodiak disc brakes, Drainmaster system, SeeLevel II
Our big girl is dragged around by our 2019 RAM 3500 Limited DRW
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10-20-2015, 08:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RomanyLife
GEE I wonder why they came up with THAT?! Haha... I will check what they sent to my service department to replace my shredded Lippert JUNK bushings... Probably those, which means they will probably FAIL.
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Did you see the post the other day from Christian chatting about the Bushings ??
here , I got it for you !--
Here are our results:
1) We researched. We looked into all claims, both paid and denied, regarding bushings and found very few occurrences. Overall the NYLON bushings that we were using have performed well and to an acceptable level. However, we listened to our owners and decided to make some adjustments.
2) We have now changed to BRONZE bushings on all current production. If you have had no issues with your bushings we are happy to provide you the bronze bushings at a reduced rate through Lippert Components, the labor for this replacement will be the responsibility of the owner. If your bushings show undue wear and tear we will be happy to cover the replacement of the bushings with bronze bushings.
The on line store for Lippert is - Home page, however to receive the Redwood Special Pricing call (574) 312-6850, (have your VIN ready!!)
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2020 F-350
2020 3991RD with-
17.5 Goodyear 114's , Titan Disc brakes, MorRyde 8K IS, Onan 6.5..
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10-20-2015, 08:23 PM
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I did NOT see that! Thanks for sharing. I haven't been on the forum much lately because of an imminent wedding (my oldest daughter) which is this weekend, then life will settle down again a little. We have towed our trailer very little and the bushings are TOAST.
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Living the Dream in our 2015 38RL: 1600 watts solar, 800 ah lithium, slide in slide, residential refer, washer/dryer, Moryde 8K, H rated tires, Kodiak disc brakes, Drainmaster system, SeeLevel II
Our big girl is dragged around by our 2019 RAM 3500 Limited DRW
Grateful Veterans, Proud Americans, Devoted Partners, Parents and Grandparents!
LOVE the Full Time RV Life @OurRomanyLife
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10-20-2015, 08:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RomanyLife
I did NOT see that! Thanks for sharing. I haven't been on the forum much lately because of an imminent wedding (my oldest daughter) which is this weekend, then life will settle down again a little. We have towed our trailer very little and the bushings are TOAST.
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Figured you missed it... I would call and get those bronze bushings.. NEVER trust NEVER FAIL anything . .
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2020 F-350
2020 3991RD with-
17.5 Goodyear 114's , Titan Disc brakes, MorRyde 8K IS, Onan 6.5..
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10-21-2015, 04:00 AM
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Good news, they sent the bronze bushings... they are waiting for us down at the service department to be installed.
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Living the Dream in our 2015 38RL: 1600 watts solar, 800 ah lithium, slide in slide, residential refer, washer/dryer, Moryde 8K, H rated tires, Kodiak disc brakes, Drainmaster system, SeeLevel II
Our big girl is dragged around by our 2019 RAM 3500 Limited DRW
Grateful Veterans, Proud Americans, Devoted Partners, Parents and Grandparents!
LOVE the Full Time RV Life @OurRomanyLife
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10-21-2015, 10:14 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford truck guy
Did you see the post the other day from Christian chatting about the Bushings ??
here , I got it for you !--
Here are our results:
1) We researched. We looked into all claims, both paid and denied, regarding bushings and found very few occurrences. Overall the NYLON bushings that we were using have performed well and to an acceptable level. However, we listened to our owners and decided to make some adjustments.
2) We have now changed to BRONZE bushings on all current production. If you have had no issues with your bushings we are happy to provide you the bronze bushings at a reduced rate through Lippert Components, the labor for this replacement will be the responsibility of the owner. If your bushings show undue wear and tear we will be happy to cover the replacement of the bushings with bronze bushings.
The on line store for Lippert is - Home page, however to receive the Redwood Special Pricing call (574) 312-6850, (have your VIN ready!!)
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Just called Lippert reference the bronze bushings & asked about "Redwoods Special Pricing" & they had no clue what the heck I was talking about. Anyone advise & how many bushings I'd need to order?
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Mike & Gayle
Our 3 fur children "Ting-Tang"&"Saylor"(Shih Tsu's) &"Kai" (Finnish Spitz)
2007 Silverado Classic 3500 LT C.C. Longbed Dually,
Duramax, Allison Tranny, 62 Gal. Titan Tank
2016 39MB 5.5 Onan, Residential Package, Goodyear G114's, Mor/ryde heavy duty Shackle/bushing upgrade.
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10-21-2015, 10:16 PM
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Help! !
Hey Christian , How about a little help above ! ! ! !
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2020 F-350
2020 3991RD with-
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10-21-2015, 11:53 PM
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Wouldn't it be a nice PR thing if Redwood had a "Recall" reference the plastic bushings similar to the auto industry? Obvious that mgt. realized that this plastic bushing situation needed to be addressed in light of them now producing the current production units with the BRONZE bushings. Oh well wishful thinking considering the fact that I've already made a warranty issue appointment (leaking bedroom slide) for Nov. 11th.
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Mike & Gayle
Our 3 fur children "Ting-Tang"&"Saylor"(Shih Tsu's) &"Kai" (Finnish Spitz)
2007 Silverado Classic 3500 LT C.C. Longbed Dually,
Duramax, Allison Tranny, 62 Gal. Titan Tank
2016 39MB 5.5 Onan, Residential Package, Goodyear G114's, Mor/ryde heavy duty Shackle/bushing upgrade.
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10-22-2015, 02:43 AM
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The only reason there haven't been more warranty claims, they last just that long. I replaced mine this summer at about 6k miles. The 4 outer, fixed hangers, the bushings were junk.
Mark
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10-23-2015, 03:32 AM
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UPDATE:
Decided to not piddle around with Lippert & their so called "Redwood" discount for the bronze bushings. Just ordered Morride kit #U012-021 Bronze bushings, heavy duty Shackles ,& wet bolt kit from Amazon. $95 bucks. Going to have them installed by my dealer when I bring it in for service & be done with it.
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Mike & Gayle
Our 3 fur children "Ting-Tang"&"Saylor"(Shih Tsu's) &"Kai" (Finnish Spitz)
2007 Silverado Classic 3500 LT C.C. Longbed Dually,
Duramax, Allison Tranny, 62 Gal. Titan Tank
2016 39MB 5.5 Onan, Residential Package, Goodyear G114's, Mor/ryde heavy duty Shackle/bushing upgrade.
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10-23-2015, 01:33 PM
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Site Team
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I installed the same kit a few weeks ago. Six of the plastic bushings were worn through.
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2013 Redwood 34SK, 2017 F350 Dually
Grain Valley, Mo
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10-23-2015, 04:02 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosey
UPDATE:
Decided to not piddle around with Lippert & their so called "Redwood" discount for the bronze bushings. Just ordered Morride kit #U012-021 Bronze bushings, heavy duty Shackles ,& wet bolt kit from Amazon. $95 bucks. Going to have them installed by my dealer when I bring it in for service & be done with it.
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Very wise decision!
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Guy & Phyllis
2012 RW36RL,DualA/C,KodiakDiskBrakes,TrailAir Tri-Glide,GY_G614's,Roadmaster Comfort Ride Slipper Spring Suspension
2011Dodge3500Laramie,CrewCab,4x4,SRW,Michelins, LongBed,6.7LCTD,3.73,PullRiteSuper5th20.5KHitch, BlueOxBedsaver
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10-23-2015, 04:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosey
UPDATE:
Decided to not piddle around with Lippert & their so called "Redwood" discount for the bronze bushings. Just ordered Morride kit #U012-021 Bronze bushings, heavy duty Shackles ,& wet bolt kit from Amazon. $95 bucks. Going to have them installed by my dealer when I bring it in for service & be done with it.
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Got mine from Makarios RV... your kit is $87.00.. have you thought about switching to the Mor/ryde SRE4000 while your at it ? Its only a couple more bolts to remove at that stage , mine was $349.00 from Makarios
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2020 F-350
2020 3991RD with-
17.5 Goodyear 114's , Titan Disc brakes, MorRyde 8K IS, Onan 6.5..
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10-24-2015, 03:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford truck guy
Got mine from Makarios RV... your kit is $87.00.. have you thought about switching to the Mor/ryde SRE4000 while your at it ? Its only a couple more bolts to remove at that stage , mine was $349.00 from Makarios
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$95 bucks at Amazon but FREE (Prime) shipping....... think I'll just go with the bushing/shackle upgrade for now but thanks for the heads up!
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Mike & Gayle
Our 3 fur children "Ting-Tang"&"Saylor"(Shih Tsu's) &"Kai" (Finnish Spitz)
2007 Silverado Classic 3500 LT C.C. Longbed Dually,
Duramax, Allison Tranny, 62 Gal. Titan Tank
2016 39MB 5.5 Onan, Residential Package, Goodyear G114's, Mor/ryde heavy duty Shackle/bushing upgrade.
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10-24-2015, 02:47 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosey
$95 bucks at Amazon but FREE (Prime) shipping....... think I'll just go with the bushing/shackle upgrade for now but thanks for the heads up!
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Take a look at Dyer's RV pricing at the following links:
For Mor/ryde SRE 4000 Equalizer:
MOR/Ryde SRE/4000 Suspension System for 33" Wheelbase Tandem Axle Trailers - RV / Trailer Suspension Upgrades - RV / Trailer Steering & Suspensions - Towing & Automotive
For Mor/ryde Heavy Duty Shackles Kit:
MOR/Ryde Heavy Duty Shackle Kit for Tandem SRE/4000 - RV / Trailer Suspension Upgrades - RV / Trailer Steering & Suspensions - Towing & Automotive
Shipping is only $8.98 and about 5 days.
Hope this helps.
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Guy & Phyllis
2012 RW36RL,DualA/C,KodiakDiskBrakes,TrailAir Tri-Glide,GY_G614's,Roadmaster Comfort Ride Slipper Spring Suspension
2011Dodge3500Laramie,CrewCab,4x4,SRW,Michelins, LongBed,6.7LCTD,3.73,PullRiteSuper5th20.5KHitch, BlueOxBedsaver
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10-24-2015, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hoosierguy
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Thanks Guy..... if I decide to get the SRE 4000, want to make sure I order the correct one. Have a 2016 39MB. The one for the tandem 33" should be the one right ?
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Mike & Gayle
Our 3 fur children "Ting-Tang"&"Saylor"(Shih Tsu's) &"Kai" (Finnish Spitz)
2007 Silverado Classic 3500 LT C.C. Longbed Dually,
Duramax, Allison Tranny, 62 Gal. Titan Tank
2016 39MB 5.5 Onan, Residential Package, Goodyear G114's, Mor/ryde heavy duty Shackle/bushing upgrade.
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10-24-2015, 06:08 PM
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The MorRyde heavy duty shackle kit was next on my list to do. Was planning to do it when I put it in storage. Problem now is that I am having it done at dealership. I was taking unit to dealership for some paint work on rear cap. I was 10 miles from dealer when the drivers side rear hanger wetbolt snapped and spring came out of hanger. Rear axle moved forward and cut the brake line. Now have to have extensive work done. Need rear caliper, axle and brake lines replaced. Figured might as well have all wet bolts replaced along with bushings while it is there. Now waiting to see if all this will be covered. Only had 4700 miles on new unit.
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2016 38 RL, tan and burgundy, H rated tires on 17.5 rims, disc brakes, washer and dryer, residential refrigerator, MorRyde IS, 2015 GMC 3500 HD Denali,Duramax DRW, 4x4, Firestone air bags
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10-24-2015, 06:28 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Retired educators
The MorRyde heavy duty shackle kit was next on my list to do. Was planning to do it when I put it in storage. Problem now is that I am having it done at dealership. I was taking unit to dealership for some paint work on rear cap. I was 10 miles from dealer when the drivers side rear hanger wetbolt snapped and spring came out of hanger. Rear axle moved forward and cut the brake line. Now have to have extensive work done. Need rear caliper, axle and brake lines replaced. Figured might as well have all wet bolts replaced along with bushings while it is there. Now waiting to see if all this will be covered. Only had 4700 miles on new unit.
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4700 miles...unbelieveable! These are not Park models! They are supposed to be made to be lived in full time and traveled in to enjoy, not to have a frequent "parking spot" at a dealership for service on items that should last for years. I'm baffled by some of the issues I see on the fourm! I get really frustrated to see all the upgrades/changes that have to be made to make our rigs safe and truly roadworthy.
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10-24-2015, 08:13 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosey
Thanks Guy..... if I decide to get the SRE 4000, want to make sure I order the correct one. Have a 2016 39MB. The one for the tandem 33" should be the one right ?
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You can go to the Mor/ryde website and download a qualification sheet that explains how to determine which SRE 4000 you will need. Use the following links to learn more:
http://www.morryde.com/uploads/downl...ion%20Form.pdf
Other related links:
SRE4000 Suspension System - MORryde Products
My 2012 36RL required the 33 inch version (SRE2-733X) but I can't say for sure about other RW models.
Hope this helps.
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Guy & Phyllis
2012 RW36RL,DualA/C,KodiakDiskBrakes,TrailAir Tri-Glide,GY_G614's,Roadmaster Comfort Ride Slipper Spring Suspension
2011Dodge3500Laramie,CrewCab,4x4,SRW,Michelins, LongBed,6.7LCTD,3.73,PullRiteSuper5th20.5KHitch, BlueOxBedsaver
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