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05-18-2013, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RollsRoyce
Brad, I am installing my progressive 50 amp tomorrow but I have noticed on the colored photos of the unit in the pamphlet that the unit may have to be installed upside down....would you take a picture of your EMS with the cover off .. I called progressive and they agreed that the photos and information are not to correct...I can't tell from your picture where the lines come in or where they go to...I am not cutting any major wire...I propose to do as TallPines did and remove the wire in the center (or on the left ) of the transfer box and connect to the sensor side of the EMS and add new wire from the other side and connect to the transfer box.....What the EMS guy said was the power cable from the center of the transfer box connects to the sensor side where the readings are taken and the other side is just the adjustment connection back to the transfer box...I think I need a drink or 2...If my directions weren't screwed up I'm sure I wouldn't be bothered by this....Maybe if I could get a picture of the transfer box and Ems at the same time with covers off and and at least one of the wire between trsfr box and EMS that would solve my problem...By the way Brad it seems as though you have mastered the photo process
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Royce, they are correct, the photos in the manual are backwards. It got me too . I had to remove it and flip it over so that the readout module was on the right instead of the left. Ground bar should be on the bottom and the induction coils on the right to be correct
Here are some more pics. Yes, the center wire comes off of the transfer switch and goes into the left side of the EMS. A new wire is then added to the right side of the EMS and returns to the center of the transfer switch.
Directions indicate wrong way below:
Corrected way below:
Edited by: atom ant
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05-18-2013, 01:13 PM
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Thanks Brad, I hooked it up the same way you did the first time but it just didn't look right. In that first picture it loooks like you have a rather large black backing plate where the 4 screws go...Did that come with or is part of your unit
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05-18-2013, 04:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RollsRoyce
Thanks Brad, I hooked it up the same way you did the first time but it just didn't look right.Â* In that first picture it loooks like you have a rather large black backing plate where the 4 screws go...Did that come with or is part of your unit
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I was wondering if someone would ask about that! I need something to span the studs behind that vinyl. I looked around and there were the two black metal knockouts for the generator laying in the trash! I used one for that, and the other is going to finish the span between the frame for my 2nd sewer tube, because its about 3" too short.
You must already have yours in, but if not you might try some 1/4 plywood.
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05-22-2013, 06:39 PM
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We Just added a new recliner, DW did not want 1, added ceiling Fan in BedRoom. Pictures over weekend.
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05-22-2013, 11:52 PM
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Ceiling fan in bedroom? Great idea. Don't think it would be good in the RL though... Ha
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05-23-2013, 07:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RifRaff
We Just added a new recliner, DW did not want 1, added ceiling Fan in BedRoom. Pictures over weekend.
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Ahhh, the beauty of the FL!
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05-23-2013, 10:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RifRaff
We Just added a new recliner, DW did not want 1, added ceiling Fan in BedRoom. Pictures over weekend.
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Looking forward to your photos, as we miss our recliners. When we discussed it with our local sales manager he advised they weren't an option on the FL.
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05-23-2013, 12:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oriana
Quote:
Originally Posted by RifRaff
We Just added a new recliner, DW did not want 1, added ceiling Fan in BedRoom. Pictures over weekend.
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Looking forward to your photos, as we miss our recliners. When we discussed it with our local sales manager he advised they weren't an option on the FL.
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Your sales person is correct. If you notice the floor/deck in the living room of the FL you'll notice the stepped accomodation that needed to be made for the superstructure both behind the chairs and the sofa. I made a bit of a stink before I examined the floor myself and saw it with my own two eyes...doubting Thomas ya' know. With that said, our last time out I zonked while in one of those chairs watching T.V. late at night. The most comfortable chair I've ever had the pleasure of sitting in while in an RV.
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05-23-2013, 12:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tall-Pines
Did you check out my video of the installed surge protector EMS unit in my 36RL?
If you have any further questions or need something clearer, I can pop out to the trailer tomorrow and take some pictures.
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Ian...very nice install. It's great to see so many folks doing their own installs of the surge protector. Food for thought here. Depending upon how much dry camping you do, it makes sense to consider protecting the coach from the genset as well. Although the risk of damage is greater coming from shore power, voltage regulators in gensets can fail. In order to fully protect the coach, you want to install the surge protector between the transfer switch and the main bussbar.
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Cindy and Tom, Toby and Kasey (our Berner and Newfie)
Oh...I forgot the five kids.
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05-23-2013, 01:05 PM
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Spindrift Where is your install pbhoto
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05-23-2013, 01:24 PM
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Royce...unfortunately, I haven't finished my install. My RW is at the dealer having a new front A/C unit installed after the first one took a dump during our last trip. If you'd like, I can draw an ugly print that illustrates what I plan to do.
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Cindy and Tom, Toby and Kasey (our Berner and Newfie)
Oh...I forgot the five kids.
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05-23-2013, 03:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spindrift
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tall-Pines
Did you check out my video of the installed surge protector EMS unit in my 36RL?
If you have any further questions or need something clearer, I can pop out to the trailer tomorrow and take some pictures.
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Ian...very nice install. Â*It's great to see so many folks doing their own installs of the surge protector. Food for thought here. Â*Depending upon how much dry camping you do, it makes sense to consider protecting the coach from the genset as well. Â*Although the risk of damage is greater coming from shore power, voltage regulators in gensets can fail. Â*In order to fully protect the coach, you want to install the surge protector between the transfer switch and the main bussbar.
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Spindrift, I have heard of conflicts between the generator internal protection and surge suppression, so I avoided altogether. If I'm not mistaken, when we bought our gen in 2003 I thought Onan also recommended not using surge suppression, as it had its own.
May or may not have a good basis now, but I choose to focus on the shoreline.
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05-24-2013, 01:05 AM
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I installed the surge protector as recommended by the surge protector's manufacturer, Progressive Industries:
As per their FAQ web page:
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" id="table45" style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Tahoma;"><t><tr><td ="http://www.progressiveindustries.net/title2_back.gif" width="100%" style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 15px;"> Should a Hardwired EMS be installed before or after the transfer switch?</td><td ="blank" valign="top" style="font-size: 1pt; line-height: 1px;"> </td></tr></t></table>A hardwired EMS should be installed prior to the transfer switch. The reason for this is RV generators already have built-in voltage and frequency protection. If the EMS is installed after the transfer switch, this leaves the transfer switch vulnerable to power problems.</span>
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06-23-2013, 02:05 AM
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We won't be up to our RV until next weekend, so pictures would have to wait.
These are the mods we have on our FL as of right now (always more to come right)!
- 50 amp surge protector
- max fan added to bathroom with controller
- window in living room side
- hdmi cable pulled thru to split Dvr box from living room to basement tv (football games)
Then hdmi cable ran from bedroom to kitchen to split Dvr box from bedroom
- satellite installed on roof
- plug installed by kitchen table for computer
- booster antennae to pick up wifi signal
- hitch added to back of RV
- cover for awning controller in basement
On the list to do:
- shelving in "laundry room"
- towel bars in bathroom
- door stop in bathroom
- Shelving under bath & kitchen sink
- latches on pantry slides (saw this above - now a "to do")
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09-10-2013, 08:54 PM
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I tried posting some pictures to some modifications we have made, but didn't have much luck because of limitations so I posted them on photobucket and you can see them at:
http://s1312.photobucket.com/user/rc...?sort=2&page=1
Anyway hopefully you can.
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09-10-2013, 09:48 PM
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Great Pics.
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12-18-2013, 05:26 PM
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Hello. I just noticed your post from several months back.
"We Just added a new recliner, DW did not want 1, added ceiling Fan in BedRoom. Pictures over weekend."
We also have a 36FL and are starting to think we'd like to save our backs and get 1 or 2 recliners. Am wondering if you could let me know where you ordered them from? Thanks…any help appreciated.
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07-31-2014, 05:00 AM
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Anybody have any more modifications to add to this thread? It has been along time since we have had any input. Just curious! Always love seeing the way folks personalize their units.
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07-31-2014, 05:12 AM
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That's funny good timing just posted one. Took me about a week working on and off a few hours a day. I'll try and post some pictures tomorrow.
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07-31-2014, 05:29 AM
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Added 2nd receiver to carry 280 lb. Honda Scooter.
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