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01-23-2015, 04:12 PM
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Better news...the full load of the coach is not on the wheels, remember the truck shares the load. What is the pin weight, this load is carried by the truck so the axles are carrying the weight not transferred to the truck. For example lets assume your rig weighs 16K and the pin weight is 3K...16K minus 3K equals 13K so the suspension of the rig would be carrying 13K.
I have 8K axles and G-rated tires, my coach came with a GVWR of 16.5K, I asked Redwood to reevaluate and they sent me a new sticker with a 17.5 GVWR. My total weight is ~17K, the pin weight is ~3.5K so I'm loading the wheels/axles with ~13.5K
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01-23-2015, 04:15 PM
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Thanks 'On The Road'. That makes sense, but how do I get the pin weight nailed down?
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01-23-2015, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasRver
More good news.....the factory wheels from Redwood are stamped "max load range 3,580lbs"! 3,580 X 4=14,320lbs. The GVWR sticker on the coach says 16,000lbs. Am I missing something??? It looks like Redwood put the wrong axles, wheels, and tires on this coach! I am pretty disgusted at this point.
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All of what you stated is correct for the E rated tires. I have the same year and model with the G range tires. I have 7K axles. My GVWR is 16.5K. My wheels are 3750. Please remember a good chunk of your weight is on the pin. The tires are a whole different issue and more of a concern than your axle rating.
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2013 Ram 3500 CC DRW 4.10 "Plain Jane"
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B&W 3600 Hitch 25K/6.25k
2012 36RL, Disc Brakes, G614's, 7K axles, Combo WD, Awning Toppers
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01-23-2015, 04:21 PM
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Thank you 'GA1817'. Did you change the tires and wheels out? What tires and wheels do you have?
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01-23-2015, 04:21 PM
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TexasRiver did you just buy your RW used?
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2013 Ram 3500 CC DRW 4.10 "Plain Jane"
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B&W 3600 Hitch 25K/6.25k
2012 36RL, Disc Brakes, G614's, 7K axles, Combo WD, Awning Toppers
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01-23-2015, 04:22 PM
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Yep, bought it used last summer.
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01-23-2015, 05:05 PM
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TexasRver,
You'll need to grab some actual weights of your truck and truck/trailer combo to get your pin and axle weights.
Because I'm feeling lazy I'll point you to a website rather than explaining it. It's pretty simple once you understand the process. The worst part is you'll have to hook up the RV to get one of the weights needed to determine everything.
http://www.livingthervdream.com/weigh-your-rv.html
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01-23-2015, 05:12 PM
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Yep, bought it used last summer.
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This forum was a life saver for me. I personally was not impressed with RW when I looked at new units in 2013. I would crawl up under new units on a lot and observe rust busting out everywhere on the frame. The salesman wold just say get a wire brush and some paint But man the insides and outsides were sure beautiful and other than the frame they appeared well built. Fast forward to late last year and I was only looking at used DRV and Newmar units when we decided to open it up to a used RW to satisfy the DW on a more modern coach. From reading this forum there was two "got to have" things for me, disc brakes and G rated tires. Other than that the DW let me find one with full body paint !
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2013 Ram 3500 CC DRW 4.10 "Plain Jane"
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B&W 3600 Hitch 25K/6.25k
2012 36RL, Disc Brakes, G614's, 7K axles, Combo WD, Awning Toppers
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01-23-2015, 05:13 PM
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Quote:
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Thank you 'GA1817'. Did you change the tires and wheels out? What tires and wheels do you have?
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Mine was bought used with the Goodyear G's already installed at the factory when originally purchased.
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2013 Ram 3500 CC DRW 4.10 "Plain Jane"
(RIP "Struck by Lightning")
B&W 3600 Hitch 25K/6.25k
2012 36RL, Disc Brakes, G614's, 7K axles, Combo WD, Awning Toppers
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01-23-2015, 05:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasRver
More good news.....the factory wheels from Redwood are stamped "max load range 3,580lbs"! 3,580 X 4=14,320lbs. The GVWR sticker on the coach says 16,000lbs. Am I missing something??? It looks like Redwood put the wrong axles, wheels, and tires on this coach! I am pretty disgusted at this point.
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Around 3000 lbs gets carried by the truck on the pin leaving approximately 3200lbs per wheel.
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01-23-2015, 07:26 PM
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Hey GA1817....are your wheels 16in?
And what is a DRV RV? And another stupid question...I know a DW is the wife. What does the 'D' stand for?
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01-23-2015, 07:28 PM
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Thanks LWG. I have some scale weight paperwork and will be perusing it. I really appreciate all of the help.
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01-23-2015, 07:35 PM
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Dean, my T02s will be 3 years old this March & look like brand new - but I'm a freak about the RW. Others may have a different experience.
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01-23-2015, 08:04 PM
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Quote:
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Hey GA1817....are your wheels 16in?
And what is a DRV RV? And another stupid question...I know a DW is the wife. What does the 'D' stand for?
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I believe DRV is short for Doubletree Mobile Suites. Yes my wheels are 16 inch. DW is Dear Wife !
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2013 Ram 3500 CC DRW 4.10 "Plain Jane"
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B&W 3600 Hitch 25K/6.25k
2012 36RL, Disc Brakes, G614's, 7K axles, Combo WD, Awning Toppers
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01-23-2015, 09:03 PM
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Sweet. Thank you GA1817
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01-23-2015, 09:16 PM
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DW is known as Dear Wife or Devoted Wife. I had to ask someone before also. Didn't know as I had never seen that before.
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01-24-2015, 02:26 AM
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OK, see if I can get caught up.
I have HiSpec Aluminum Wheels purchased as a complete assembly, mounted and balanced from Trailer Tires and Wheels out of Ohio.
Sounds like RW may have made a goof. If you only have G tires on 8K axles, the axle rating has to be de-rated down to the capacity of the tires, thus
2 x 3750 = 7500 per axle
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01-24-2015, 03:04 AM
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I had problems with cracked wheels on our Jayco Pinnacle and replaced them with High Spec wheel similar to Michelle & Ann's post.
Thought we were good to go, then tire pressure sensor went off just outside Phoenix AZ last spring.
One of the High Spec wheels was cracked !!!
They shipped a replacement to us when we got to California, no more problems.
Sure hope we have no issues with our Sendel Wheels on our Redwood.
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2014 Redwood 38FL
MoRyde 8K IS, Disc Brakes, MoRyde Pin Box
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01-24-2015, 03:35 AM
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Rob are u in california now
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01-24-2015, 03:44 AM
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Nope, we came back to the East coast last summer.
We were only in the West coast for a few months, back in Florida right now.
We will probably be back out West sometime this year, just not sure when.
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2014 Redwood 38FL
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