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02-03-2015, 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by atom ant
You can really beat up a trailer if they aren't balanced, and the heavier the tire, the worse it can be.
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I had the all 5 wheels balanced before we took delivery. So far in 15K miles, we haven't had any wheel or tire issues. We do have the Goodyear G614 tires.
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2012 RW36RL,DualA/C,KodiakDiskBrakes,TrailAir Tri-Glide,GY_G614's,Roadmaster Comfort Ride Slipper Spring Suspension
2011Dodge3500Laramie,CrewCab,4x4,SRW,Michelins, LongBed,6.7LCTD,3.73,PullRiteSuper5th20.5KHitch, BlueOxBedsaver
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02-03-2015, 03:36 PM
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All tire manufacturer warranties are void when you add foreign material to the tire, beads, liquid etc. Centramatic balancers are used on large trucks and they build a centramatic for trailers. This is what I use. @ $199 they are a little expensive but I don't ever question the balance.
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02-03-2015, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Titan Guy
All tire manufacturer warranties are void when you add foreign material to the tire, beads, liquid etc. Centramatic balancers are used on large trucks and they build a centramatic for trailers. This is what I use. @ $199 they are a little expensive but I don't ever question the balance.
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That might be true but I've used this same stuff in semi tires for years without an issue as have many over the road companies. You have a hard time trying to balance semi tires with weights.
I don't like the powder in trailer tires some folks use (why I use the small beads). If a trailer sits for a long period of time, the powder can get hard due to moisture in the tire.
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02-03-2015, 07:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan Guy
All tire manufacturer warranties are void when you add foreign material to the tire, beads, liquid etc. Centramatic balancers are used on large trucks and they build a centramatic for trailers. This is what I use. @ $199 they are a little expensive but I don't ever question the balance.
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Their home office is right down I-35 from us...makes it nice because they even mounted them for me when I came in as one of their first customers with a Ford Excursion back in 2002 - they wanted to make sure the clearances were there !
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02-03-2015, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave&Ginny
That might be true but I've used this same stuff in semi tires for years without an issue as have many over the road companies. You have a hard time trying to balance semi tires with weights.
I don't like the powder in trailer tires some folks use (why I use the small beads). If a trailer sits for a long period of time, the powder can get hard due to moisture in the tire.
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I used to use the plastic bb's in my huge off road tires in my buggy to balance them. They make a funny noise when you stopped and they all fell to the bottom!
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04-16-2015, 04:48 AM
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Well, upgraded to the 614. Had about 1000 miles on them. TP checked Sunday morning all around 110. 200 miles later boom roadside rear blow out.
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04-16-2015, 04:55 AM
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Did you hit something? Keep the tire and take it to Good Year. They will look it over and tell you what happened. They've stood behind their tires before when folks have had problems.
Good luck
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04-16-2015, 05:02 AM
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You've had 5 posts and all of them have been about blown out tires. Typically I'd suggest looking at your suspension but since the tires were practically new that couldn't be the issue unless you're pulling the 5er sideways.
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04-16-2015, 05:14 AM
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I would be very suspicious of bad axel alignment.
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2011Dodge3500Laramie,CrewCab,4x4,SRW,Michelins, LongBed,6.7LCTD,3.73,PullRiteSuper5th20.5KHitch, BlueOxBedsaver
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04-16-2015, 03:46 PM
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What he said about saving the tire remnants and all receipts then send an email to pdct@goodyear.com about the incident, they will ask you to fill out a form etc...
When this happened with my previous rv (has not happened on the 38gk)they asked me to bring tire to a goodyear store and they reimbursed me for the tire, the repairs to the rv etc...
FYI, the fact that I took pics with cell phone on the side of the road and the tire damage may have helped
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04-19-2015, 06:54 PM
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Tire had proper psi. Load was 11440 on the RW, well under the max load. Speed around that time was 70-75, tires are rated for 75 mph but should have kept it at 65-70. I-20 posted limit is 80 in my neck of the woods. Pulling with 2014 Chev Sil 3500. Diesel dully.
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04-19-2015, 08:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ltcmiller
Tire had proper psi. Load was 11440 on the RW, well under the max load. Speed around that time was 70-75, tires are rated for 75 mph but should have kept it at 65-70. I-20 posted limit is 80 in my neck of the woods. Pulling with 2014 Chev Sil 3500. Diesel dully.
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Not trying to start a war here but personally ........ 70 -75 mph sustained is too darn fast for these 5th wheels. I try to stay between 50 - 60 mph in the right hand lane & enjoy the drive....... let all the idiots pass me if they're in a hurry. My opinion.
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Our 3 fur children "Ting-Tang"&"Saylor"(Shih Tsu's) &"Kai" (Finnish Spitz)
2007 Silverado Classic 3500 LT C.C. Longbed Dually,
Duramax, Allison Tranny, 62 Gal. Titan Tank
2016 39MB 5.5 Onan, Residential Package, Goodyear G114's, Mor/ryde heavy duty Shackle/bushing upgrade.
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04-19-2015, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rosey
Not trying to start a war here but personally ........ 70 -75 mph sustained is too darn fast for these 5th wheels. I try to stay between 50 - 60 mph in the right hand lane & enjoy the drive....... let all the idiots pass me if they're in a hurry. My opinion.
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Oh now lets not be grumpy old men You were a cop so you know what you're allowed to do as far as minimum speed limits, but just know that if your the guy that drives 15 under the speed limit on the 2 lane, those trying to pass you are endangering everyone.
It's OK on the Interstate to hang to the right, and it's OK to drive slow on the 2 lanes if you hit a pull out and be courteous, but just remember we aren't all retired and weekends are short
I drive 75. That's why I invested in better tires and disk brakes.
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04-19-2015, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by atom ant
Oh now lets not be grumpy old men You were a cop so you know what you're allowed to do as far as minimum speed limits, but just know that if your the guy that drives 15 under the speed limit on the 2 lane, those trying to pass you are endangering everyone.
It's OK on the Interstate to hang to the right, and it's OK to drive slow on the 2 lanes if you hit a pull out and be courteous, but just remember we aren't all retired and weekends are short
I drive 75. That's why I invested in better tires and disk brakes.
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I'm so happy for you !
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2007 Silverado Classic 3500 LT C.C. Longbed Dually,
Duramax, Allison Tranny, 62 Gal. Titan Tank
2016 39MB 5.5 Onan, Residential Package, Goodyear G114's, Mor/ryde heavy duty Shackle/bushing upgrade.
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04-19-2015, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Rosey
I'm so happy for you !
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Another unnecessary opinion?
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04-20-2015, 12:24 AM
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Now children let's get along.
Bottom line is the technology we have today you should be able to drive 90 MPh and not have to worry about your rubber. To each their own the speed you are comfortable driving as long as it's done safely. I drive between 65 and 70 pulling and do not worry about my tires. I have been hauling trailers of all different sorts for 41 years and only worried about having the correct pressure in them. This tire thing has been blown way out of proportion.buy the tire that is the closest to the weight your hauling check the air pressure and quit worrying about it
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04-20-2015, 03:18 AM
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We typically drive between 65 and 70 mph depending on road conditions and weather.
When we get over 70 mph the fuel mileage really drops.
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04-22-2015, 01:36 AM
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OK... Now I am a bit confused with all the different ideas on tires and rims. I'm still a newbie with our RW since we picked it up in October.
Here is my quick question for a Senior member that has experience.
Should I be worried about my setup or am I just fine for now???
2014 Model
I have Sendel T09 rims rated for 3750 each. Goodyear Marathon ST235/80R16 Load Range E 34201bs each.
A very simple answer would be great. Not sure if I should be worried about them or not.
Thanks, Steve
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04-22-2015, 01:40 AM
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I was in the tire business for 40 years and would never run the ST235/80R16 in any brand. The only consolation I can give you is that Goodyear will pay for damages when a tire comes apart. You won't get anyone else to do that. I run 235/85R16 G but would prefer 17.5 H
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04-22-2015, 01:49 AM
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Thanks for the replay and info. Next question would be the tire you mention. will they be fine on the rims I have or do I also need to upgade them?
Steve
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