Mor/Ryde IS Alignment Issues?

Titan Guy · 10-02-2014, 02:24 AM

Anyone having any tire wear problems with the IS? I had IS installed 3 weeks ago and promptly developed severe inside shoulder wear. Contacted Mor/ryde and was waiting to hear who could re align when the LR axle flange and disc brake bracket separated and I lost all braking. I was back in Elkhart on Monday and they replaced both axles and realigned. I am now 1,000 miles away and having tire wear issues again. This time outside shoulder wear and feathering.

**piper guy** · 10-02-2014, 01:56 PM

Wow, sorry to hear that. To my knowledge pretty much all of us who have had it done haven't experienced this.
I think my course of action would be to see if there is a good Heavy Truck and Trailer repair near where you are (semi trailers). If so, they should have a good laser alignment system for the trailers. You would need to coordinate with Mor/Ryde as far as $$$ coverage, but needs to be looked at pronto in any case.

The Hunter alignment systems are very sensitive. Gary at MorRyde may have a problem with his and not know it. I think it would be worth a second opinion in any case..

Let us know what you find out. I have a little bit of wear on the outside edge, but it is all 4 tires and even. I've towed about 4k miles since doing the IS

I'm thinking I will get the alignment on mine checked.

rob_fla · 10-02-2014, 02:37 PM

Wow, I know the MorRyde IS is a great product but there have been a couple of people recently with issues with the install of the IS System on their 5th Wheels.

We are thinking about getting this done at some point but we do not have time to keep going back for installation problems or alignment issues.

Titan Guy · 10-02-2014, 11:10 PM

The new axles were 8k. The axle flange on the 8k is 4 bolt but 9/16" vs 7k 5 bolt 1/2". Here is picture of the 7k axle flange & disc brake bracket.

Heading for Pomona, hope to find someone there to align.

usaf1949 · 10-03-2014, 01:21 AM

I wnet with the Trail Air Center point and it has worked fantastic! Gone about 2k and no problems at all! The coach rides smooth and goes over bridge/rail road tracks with hardly a notice. Only $ 850 installed at CW!

**Dave&Ginny** · 10-03-2014, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by usaf1949

I wnet with the Trail Air Center point and it has worked fantastic! Gone about 2k and no problems at all! The coach rides smooth and goes over bridge/rail road tracks with hardly a notice. Only $ 850 installed at CW!

That's good news Jay! This could be another option for folks to consider.

Titan Guy · 10-03-2014, 07:11 AM

I went with IS specifically because it can be fully aligned without bending. The Center Point still uses a standard LCI axle which must be bent to align.

spindrift · 10-03-2014, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Titan Guy

I went with IS specifically because it can be fully aligned without bending. The Center Point still uses a standard LCI axle which must be bent to align.

Not to derail but are you saying that the installation of the Center Point requires bending of the axle? Nowhere on the Lippert or Camping World sites does it say that is necessary.

Titan Guy · 10-03-2014, 02:29 PM

Proper alignment settings are built into the axle. They are not adjustable by any means other than bending. So a new axle will have all the proper alignment spec's built in so, no bending should be required at installation.

spindrift · 10-03-2014, 02:46 PM

Then I don't understand your comment.

Titan Guy · 10-03-2014, 03:55 PM

99% of all torsion axles cannot be re-aligned after installation without bending as there is no shim system in most trailer axles. In my case I developed a severe camber wear condition on 1 wheel position. No one wanted to bend the axle, probably concerned with liability issues. Everyone wanted to replace the axle. The IS can be adjusted for both toe and camber.

**Dave&Ginny** · 10-03-2014, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Titan Guy

99% of all torsion axles cannot be re-aligned after installation without bending as there is no shim system in most trailer axles. In my case I developed a severe camber wear condition on 1 wheel position. No one wanted to bend the axle, probably concerned with liability issues. Everyone wanted to replace the axle. The IS can be adjusted for both toe and camber.

These aren't torsion axles though. A torsion axle has a rubber shaft inside of it that acts like a spring

0nTheRoad · 10-03-2014, 04:42 PM

The Center Point replaces the Equa-Flex rubber-cushioned equalizer between the two axles.

http://lci1.com/assets/content/produ...lex-101113.jpg

**Dave&Ginny** · 10-03-2014, 04:47 PM

I've talked with some folks who have had this setup and they've been happy with it. You could probably hook up a compressor like on out lift bags that would be adjustable and compensate for any leaks.

**piper guy** · 10-03-2014, 09:51 PM

I would think that setup along with adding shock absorbers to control the suspension might be a pretty good way to go.

spindrift · 10-03-2014, 10:18 PM

For those folks not wanting to make a long term investment in their RW, like us, this could very well be an attractive option to the IS. The Center Point system has received favorable reviews on RV.net

**Dave&Ginny** · 10-03-2014, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by piper guy

I would think that setup along with adding shock absorbers to control the suspension might be a pretty good way to go.

I agree ....shock absorbers are needed

0nTheRoad · 10-03-2014, 11:56 PM

Could shock absorbers be added easily?

**Dave&Ginny** · 10-04-2014, 12:00 AM

I have seen brackets for adding shocks but I can't remember where. They are best when mounted at an angle.

usaf1949 · 10-04-2014, 12:39 AM

TrailAir has shocks on their website. I haven't seen anything anywhere else. I am an old man who has never heard of bending axles. In 25 plus years and many 5th wheels I have never had any problems with axles and wear on tires...even without changes. Sometimes I think we over worry...

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